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>Linux Mint is free
Dog shit on the street is also free. Linux is a fucking atrocious piece of shit, I'd rather continue using Windows 7 for the rest of my life. I can only hope that someone comes up with a new non-unix OS before this computer stops working.

>>3752505
If you are still using windows 7 then they won't be changing anything for you. Microsoft is just pretending people like you don't exist.

>>3752508
Problem with Windows 7 is that developers don't care about supporting it, I don't download a lot of software but I've still ran into a few that just didn't run. It's not like developers need anything from new Windows APIs, they probably don't even use any of it. The real problem is that as soon as Google Chrome (which 95% of modern software is wrapped into) or Unity/Unreal Engine decides to use that stuff, all future programs will use it too as a result.

>>3752515

Tell me about it. Even many of the ISO burning tools you use to create Linux boot media don't run under Win7 anymore. I think it's hilarious that they expect you to have Windows 11 to create media to install Linux.

>>3752502
thanks bro, this shit operating system asks me to activate after i already activated, how fucking retarded are they.

Don't switch to Linux - it sucks for most people!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=590tpV3zmBY

I tried Linux…its not for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZD4mv1rM00

>>3752561
That guy picked Zorin OS which is a paid version of Linux. He literally picked the one version of Linux where they are the most like Microsoft because they track you and want you to pay for everything.

They offer nothing that you can't get for free by using Linux Mint with the default Cinnamon desktop. Only absolute morons pay for a re-skin of something they can get for free.

>>3752562
This guy's main complaint was that the monitor and webcam he used didn't offer Linux support and he didn't feel like trying to fix it.

Keep sucking Bill Gate's dick if you can't handle it, I get it, being barely competent is a high bar for you, but Linux is fine for most people. Even my mother uses Mint and she's in her late 70s. That's how easy it is.

>>3752575
>. Even my mother uses Mint and she's in her late 70s. That's how easy it is.

Correction: you use Linux for her - she just clicks where you tell her to click and doesn't understand jack shit about the rest.

>>3752575
> This guy's main complaint was that the monitor and webcam he used didn't offer Linux support and he didn't feel like trying to fix it.
That reminds me of that truism, "Linux is free only if your time has no value."

>>3752587
>she just clicks where you tell her to click and doesn't understand jack shit about the rest.
Ok, and? Most people don't know shit about an internal combustion engine despite driving a car – and they don't need to know that to successfully drive one.

To add further input… A decade ago, I installed Xubuntu onto my elderly great-aunt's computer. I had a dock at the bottom with an "Internet" icon, and a power off icon. Her home page was webmail.

Basically foolproof.

>>3752658
>Ok, and?

Nothing. It's just that you can't compare how "easy" something is for someone when you're doing the hard bits.

My 70 year old mother can install and set up Windows for herself, install the software and do the regular housekeeping by herself. You can enjoy being the family IT support until they die.

>Basically foolproof.

Until some tiny thing changes and then it's not.

>Most people don't know shit about an internal combustion engine despite driving a car – and they don't need to know that to successfully drive one.

That's the case if you're driving daddy's car and he's the one doing all the oil changes and tire rotation or whatever.

There was the one woman on the news recently who thought that oil changes were just a "suggestion" and drove for three years on the same oil and filter, then broke down. Do you think that was successful drivership?

>>3752663
Reminds me, I actually did the same thing back in the day.

Thing is, she never used the computer in the end. It was always someone else in the family who came to visit, helped to read her emails and pay the bills etc. and she never actually even touched the machine beyond pretending to use it while I was showing it to her.

Thing is, people past a certain age or era have a real problem with understanding that the user interface to a machine can have internal states that may be hidden. They're used to devices where one button does one thing and always that thing, and everything is visible on the panel. Select the program with one dial and turn a switch, and the washing machine goes. That's the level of complexity they can deal with. If the machine can switch internal states they're completely lost and the machine becomes alien to them. Even a dumb phone menu where you have to scroll up and down through a virtual list can be completely incomprehensible, because the device is doing something "invisible" and you have to keep track of that in your mind.

If you have that sort of a person, trying to get them to use a computer is impossible. They can only do exact routine actions that you teach them, and if it should ever fail in any way - if the internet is down for example - they're completely lost. They will hate the computer, refuse to use it, and all your efforts will be in vain.

>>3752813

My 70 year old father read an instructional book on Android when he got his first smartphone. He eventually did everything himself. For the things that the book didn't cover, I wrote a manual with diagrams on how to operate the Chromecast, and how to restart it when it misbehaves. When I installed a HDMI hub/audio extractor, I did the same thing. I don't have to hold his hand anymore. I convinced them to get a good Motorola modem and ASUS router. I have power cycled it maybe a small handful of times. Reliable as they come.

As for my mother with her smartphone? You got me there. Every time I come to visit, she asks me if she needs to worry about something then shows me an email or text to make sure its not malware or a scam. That's the extent of my "family IT" duties. Will I keep doing it until they die? You bet.

>>3752814

I acknowledge that my comparison wasn't the best since I wasn't taking into account preventative or necessary maintenance. Do they not teach about maintenance in driver's education? That would give me a bone to pick.

>>3752817

They all eventually just got iPhones anyway, so yeah, fair.

theres a better version of this which is supergodmode or something