/furi/ - Yaff

Cute. Would.

Smash or pass? Anya's mom

>3767814
It depends, does she French Kiss?

>>3767814
Why have you not been doxxed and arrested yet?
What have you done with Anya?!

>>3767819
I'm a trucker so it's hard to dox a dude who's gone the next day. As for Anya she's doing good, I even got her a den for when we stay at an Airbnb.

>>3767815
Idk.

>>3767824
Truckers are a close-knit group and know of each other, plus most of them will hate people who use duct tape to immobilise their dog and sexually molest her. I was hoping the "crash your truck" dweeb on here would have followed through and started contacting some buddies of yours.

I don't see how getting a "den" for Anya makes any of this okay, but I suppose it's a step up from grabbing her and sticking your dirty finger in her vagina while naked and tying her up with random pieces of rope.
How about you stop molesting them, and just enjoy their friendship and company instead? "Man's best friend" isn't just something that's said to sell dog food and toys.
What you're doing is unnatural and unhealthy, for both parties involved.

>>3767824
>>3767893
I don't think I've seen this dog look happy in a single photo of her :(

I don't mind if people fuck their dogs but only if they respect the dog as an equal and do everything they can to keep the dog satisfied, happy and safe.

Anyas abuser do none of those things.

>>3767893
I never do penetrative sex as a punishment.
There's nothing wrong with a corrective measures and I think what I did was appropriate. It's how my dad corrected me.
>>3767914
There's plenty of pictures of her happy. I offered leash walk her all the time.

>>3767920
What your father did to you was abusive and cruel, no matter whether you believe that it was appropriate, or not.
There isn't a single professional dog training book or child-rearing book available on the market, even in the crazy and sick times that we live in, that even remotely suggests the kind of corrective and sexual behaviour that you were subjected to, and the kind of behaviour that you're exposing Anya to.

In fact, if someone were to do such a thing to a child, they'd be arrested and convicted by a jury. The fact that it happened to you was inappropriate and wrong. It should stop there, and not continue with anyone else - you would do the right thing to not continue such behaviour.

Anya's body language expresses that she clearly isn't okay with being handled that way, and I'm sure that you weren't okay with it when it happened to you.
Isn't it enough for you to sustain the life and contentment of another intelligent and emotional being like Anya, without making her go through what you yourself went through?

Throughout history, dogs were man's companion and friend and even valued family members. Plus, going by my own research, mankind would never have reached the level of advancement that it has, without the companionship of dogs.
You're fortunate to have such a nice companion and the freedom that an adult life with career will offer; most people in the world don't have what you do. Don't blow your chance at having a good friend and generally enviable and respected position in society for years to come.

>>3767922
WTF bro. All my dad did was tape me up. It's not a big deal. I think every kid should be taped up for being a shit sometimes.

Anya is fine. She enjoys all the freedoms I give her.

>>3767924
You and I are posting on 1 of the most evil places on the Internet, and I don't mean that in a "good" or "cool" way.

Even so, most (of the 5 remaining) here will agree that what your dad did to you was sick and wrong, and the rest will fap to the thought of it.

>>3767927
Okay, explain why it's wrong? I see it as no different than a time out.

>>3767927
You think this is the most evil place on the internet because Dan nuked your bullshit covid vaccine posts. And you're such a narcissistic Karen, you demanded cho0b restore your posts as if any of this shit gets backed up. Get over it.

>>3767924
>>3767928
How did you remove the tape without ripping Anya's fur out?

>>3767928
Soap, water, and fur clippers. Ever since I decided to use rope instead.

>>3767933
Yeah, normal people just squirt their dogs with spray bottles when they act up. They hate it so much, you just have to reach for the bottle to get them to stop.

>>3767933
>>3767934
Oh, and I shouldn't have to specify this, but water goes into the bottle. Just water.

>>3767934
I'm not a normal person.

>>3767928
A big reason for using physical restraints being "wrong" is that it's a tool used for inflicting mental and physical torture today, and throughout history. I don't mean fake movie-type torture, but actual war crimes torture.
It's a tool used for breaking people, and subduing the worst kinds of criminals such as sadistic mass murderers and rapists in the world's harshest prisons.
There may be people in this world that "require" such actions inflicted upon them, but if that's the case, they're of the worst kind of people.

Another reason for it being wrong, is because it bypasses the many more subtle, caring and insightful methods of correcting bad behaviour. We're not living inside the harshest of prisons reserved for mass murderers and rapists, and we're not in an active war zone. We're still living inside an "everyday", "normie" environment.

Nothing tells a family member that you don't love them, or are incapable of loving them, like reaching straight for 1 of the most extreme forms of "behaviour correction" possible, instead of responding with a more measured action. It also tells the family member that one doesn't actually know what they're doing, because it doesn't actually make sense to make a big deal over little things.
A true and capable leader won't respond excessively over minor infractions, and will also be learned enough to respond effectively and responsibly in all situations.

Dogs aren't capable of associating such a long and drawn out punishment with anything their trainer/leader doesn't want them to do.
When a dog, after receiving such a punishment, doesn't for a while do the unwanted behaviour, it's likely due to them being too fearful or depressed to perform almost any behaviour except for the most simple and basic ones.
In other words, dogs like that will only appear to have learned some kind of lesson, because they're "walking on eggshells" without actually having learned anything, instead of expressing themselves and living lives fully.

A simple stern voice command can work wonders, when given by a fair leader who is respected for his proven wisdom rather than fear over his excessive punishment.

At least keep your mind open to the fact, that when war criminals (or in extreme cases also jail wardens) do things, they're not healthy or appropriate for applying to everyday situations.

>>3767931
I never said any of that, and you're clearly not a mind reader either so quit trying.

>>3767934
I like how you still think that anyone, or any-thing here is "normal". It's endearing, in a way. I almost want to protect you, and give you a nice home with your own bed and room and everything. :3

>>3767941
You did say it, you lying cunt. You called it a democide, warning that the covid vaccines would cause death en mass. But you were wrong, just like you're wrong about everything.

>>3767941
I guess I'm one of those worst kinds of people then.

I think certain breeds of dog are more intelligent than you think when it comes to delayed rewards/punishments. She understands that if I really like what she does I'll reward her at the truck, and understands that if she fucks up big time she gets put back into the truck.

Smash or pass
Walnut The Crane?

>>3767975
Right in the ol cloaca

Humanity treating them as a work of art.

>>3767945
>>3767931
>You think this is the most evil place on the internet because Dan nuked your bullshit covid vaccine posts. And you're such a narcissistic Karen, you demanded cho0b restore your posts as if any of this shit gets backed up. Get over it.
>I never said any of that, and you're clearly not a mind reader either so quit trying.
Unless you start making posts that are honest and not packed with deception, I have nothing more to say to you. I know what I said, and have saved every post of mine since before this board began. If I have ever lied, there'll be someone out there who will have saved it and can show it here.

>>3767947
>I guess I'm one of those worst kinds of people then.
Because you were cruelly and unfairly treated when you were a kid? No!

My point was that it isn't right to inflict such restraints in any case, and that only during the crimes of war or when dealing with murderous prisoners that will lash out at any opportunity, will such restraints be applied - nevertheless it'll still get criticised by outside observers of varying qualifications, from "normie" to experienced trained experts, because it indeed is a form of torture, and torture in any form is considered destructive and useless. People (as messed up as they are even now) generally still won't look back in history, look at all the torture that was applied to different peoples, and then consider that to have been a useful and correct thing to have happened. Prisoners will say and do anything for the torture to stop, they will be permanently damaged or destroyed by it, and those who've committed the torture will be shunned as people capable of committing monstrous inhuman acts.
My point was, that even when used in the most extreme of situations, placing someone in restraints like that is generally considered a form of (useless and destructive) torture.

Being a kid automatically pardons you from such behaviour getting inflicted upon you! Being an adult wouldn't make it right to have such behaviour inflicted as well, even if the adult is "guilty" of some crime - alternatives must be sought. In both cases, the person or system inflicting the restraint-torture will have debased itself into committing destructive behaviour that benefits or teaches no one. Nobody "wins" in that case (except those giving the orders to commit torture, but that's another subject).

>>3767947
>I think certain breeds of dog are more intelligent than you think when it comes to delayed rewards/punishments.

Please take some time to read through these web pages that show up here, rather than just the headlines or snippets. You're a leader now, and it's your responsibility to be a wise and fair leader:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=punishment+animal+dog+training+delayed

>>3767990
>Because you were cruelly and unfairly treated when you were a kid? No!
No. Because I genuinely believe that my "unfair treatment" was fair and was needed to turn me into a better person.
>>3767992
I'm treating Anya how I'd treat anyone else who was in her place. Border collies and huskies are wise enough to understand delayed punishments and timeouts.

>>3767993
>I genuinely believe that my "unfair treatment" was fair and was needed to turn me into a better person.
As I said, even most inhabitants of this evil place will feel that what happened to you was excessive, cruel and destructive… then a portion of the remainder will likely fap to the thought of it.

As for your methods in treating Anya, if you were to check the search results you'd see plenty of alternatives to such treatment, but also plenty of reasons to why it's ultimately more destructive than helpful.
Maybe you don't want to see or know that, but I wish you could.

>>3767994
So far you're the only one who said time outs with tape are over the line.

The only results I need is the fact I was able to walk miles in NYC without having to have a leash on her once. (It was probably between 2-4 miles)

>>3767995
>So far you're the only one who said time outs with tape are over the line.
I've seen some comments on here, but also this kind of thing isn't "new" and has been discussed elsewhere.

>The only results I need is the fact I was able to walk miles in NYC without having to have a leash on her once.
Yes, it's a "result". But it's a result that was likely due to Anya being fearful. There are lots of ways to get the same result, one doesn't need to reach for the most extreme method.

Firstly, regarding "immobilisation" being a form of torture, I'll quote some things from these web pages:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1752928X21000408
"Along with suspension, positional torture includes prolonged immobilization often in unnatural positions, e.g. confined in a small cage."

https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/12/29/report-to-un-on-released-hostages-reveals-torture-starvation-sexual-assault-at-gunpoint/
"They were often exposed to verbal, physical, and sexual violence. The conditions of captivity were deliberately designed to create an environment of torture, harm them psychologically, break their morale, and ease control over them. Captivity was marked by significant trauma-inducing factors: separating family members, isolating children from parents, immobilization, random transfers, and exposure to violence and abuse."

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/HRBodies/CEDAW/HarmfulPractices/JeanneSarson-LindaMacDonald.pdf
"Najat M’jid Maalla, Special Rapporteur on the sale of children, child prostitution and child pornography made reference in her report to an Australian Federal Police study showing 21 % of the pedophilic sexualized internet imagery involved rape, bondage and torture and to a US study showing 26% involved torture and bondage. 13 The Royal Canadian Mounted Police Child Exploitation Unit stated that 20% of the pedophilic pornography viewed contained torture and bondage. 14 Canadian statistics show an increase in crimes such as child pornography, weapons usage, criminal harassment, and drug offences, … These results mirror some of the horrific details of the NST (Non-State Torture) atrocities we have listened to since 1993. For example, women generally speak of: a) The repetitive tortures, including bestiality and ‘bondage’ or immobilization tortures during their childhood and into their young adult years; for some their NST victimization lasted over 20 years before they were old enough or could manage to flee;"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacological_torture
"Pharmacological torture is the use of psychotropic or other drugs to punish or extract information from a person.[1] The aim is to force compliance by causing distress, which could be in the form of pain, anxiety, psychological disturbance, immobilization, or disorientation."

https://www.nature.com/articles/3101284
Torture and its neurological sequelae
Abstract
Background: Refugees and asylum seekers continue to enter the United States and the European Union in record numbers. Some have estimated that between 5–35% of all refugees have suffered torture in their countries of origin. Although general practitioners and specialized physicians are likely to encounter victims of torture as patients, few providers are familiar with the health problems that may affect this patient population.

Purpose: To provide neurologists, neurosurgeons, and rehabilitation medicine physicians with basic knowledge about survivors of torture that can help in the diagnosis, treatment, and referral of such patients.

Methods: A MEDLINE (1966–October 2001) search using keywords torture and sequelae (nervous system diseases and brain injuries) was conducted. Other data sources included books, reference lists, online resources and expert opinion.

Findings: Forms of torture that may affect the nervous system include beatings, gunshot wounds, stab wounds, asphyxiation, prolonged suspension and electrocution. Victims of torture commonly experience neurological symptoms such as headaches, vertigo, loss of consciousness and dizziness during and after torture. A successful and meaningful clinical interaction with a survivor of torture includes avoiding retraumatization, building trust, spelling out any limits on confidentiality, and above anything else, establishing empathy with the patient.

Conclusions: Neurological sequelae of torture can be devastating physically and psychologically. The treatment of these neurological conditions does not differ from other patient populations. However, the clinical approach is unique and must focus on avoiding retraumatization and helping the victim reintegrate into society as quickly as possible.

"Victims of torture frequently report being restrained with handcuffs, shackles, wires or ropes. A significant number of them also reports being secluded inside small box-type cells that completely limit any physical mobility. 35 Tight ropes, handcuffs and shackles may cause peripheral nerve damage with symptoms ranging from transient sensory deficits to permanent motor damage. 37 Nerves that are particularly susceptible to compression include, but are not limited to, the median, the ulnar nerves and the tibial nerve. Radial nerve compression may also result from prolonged immobilization, as when victims of torture are forced to lay down on their side inside small box-type cells while having their hands tied on the back."

>>3767995
This is just a tiny amount of evidence for immobilisation being torture, and the people inflicting such things 'not being correct in their actions.
Animals, especially dogs, are intelligent beings and will have similar psychological and physical harm done to them, by being exposed to such torture.

You were tortured as a kid, and it was wrong!

Having said all of that, I'll post some good news on here as well. I just have to get back to work stuff now. :/
Maybe 20 hours or so.

As I said earlier, you're a leader now, and with that power comes responsibility to wield it fairly, but the payoffs for doing so are significant!

>>3767999
>Anya being fearful.
She's not fearful on our walks. She's fearful in my truck when things fall down.
>one doesn't need to reach for the most extreme method.
I don't consider that the most extreme.
>Firstly, regarding "immobilisation" being a form of torture
I disagree.
>positional torture includes prolonged immobilization often in unnatural positions, e.g. confined in a small cage.
Never had her in an awkward position. just laying on her side for maybe an hour or two.
>You were tortured as a kid, and it was wrong!
Lol punishment isn't torture.

>>3768011
Someone who doesn't see anything wrong with being tied up/immobilized as a form of punishment when he was a kid, is unqualified to assess what constitutes torture and what doesn't.
I'm not "criticising" you, but it's just that. I wish you would have read through all the posted quotes. It's a good thing that people in general still feel that immobilisation is a form of torture. Unfortunately for you, you were one of the kids that "fell through the cracks".

Regarding "awkward positions" - any position in an immobilised state will be "awkward".

>>3768011
I don't know if you've seen my posts in the bondage/torture thread before they were deleted, nor have I seen a response if you've posted it, but I promised to check out for you some training videos, and have found some good ones and also crap ones.

I'm pretty tired at the moment, so will only post links to this one guy despite there being some other good ones, but he's fine and the first one who wasn't crap that I've found:

Off Leash Training: How to Train Your Dog To Listen Off Leash
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OrnCXS_zP5k

How To Go From Out of Control Dog to Leash Walking Bliss in a Crowded City!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp7niWsF2ug

How I Trained My Dog to Listen Off Leash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YHaHn37YrA

If you don't want to buy a new (expensive) harness, you can get 2nd hand ones, but make sure you wash it in the washing machine first because it'll irritate and distract Anya otherwise.
You'll need a very long training leash and lots of treats.
This guy makes it seem easy and quick, but likely you'll need to do this over a longer time for the training to sink in.
Look through all his videos, to see if anything interesting to you comes up. He's a bit click-baity and "buy this" but whatever, you'll live.
He's got a training course for free which might be good, but haven't checked it - I'm already trained, woof woof!
It's possible to train a dog to walk off leash in the city, but I recommend against it! If Anya gets spooked by a loud noise or psycho dog, she might run into a car or bike, etc. and get injured or killed.

I'll probably post those other links as well to other trainers, so you can pick your favourite trainer-personality to learn from.

Ask questions if you'd like - I want to help out!

Pic sources:
https://www.anipixels.com/keyword/dog%20meat

https://www.the-sun.com/news/3134486/animal-cruelty-yulin-dog-meat-festival-china/

https://www.newsweek.com/dogs-sold-meat-indonesia-wet-market-ban-1723755

>>3768015
>Someone who doesn't see anything wrong with being tied up/immobilized as a form of punishment when he was a kid, is unqualified to assess what constitutes torture and what doesn't.
LOL wouldn't that make me more qualified on the subject tho?
>I'm not "criticising" you, but it's just that. I wish you would have read through all the posted quotes. It's a good thing that people in general still feel that immobilisation is a form of torture. Unfortunately for you, you were one of the kids that "fell through the cracks".
I disagree with your assessment. It's still fairly common in America. It's much worse when you don't use a rope because lardasses tend to accidently sufficient their children.
>>3768150
She wasn't in a sardine cage like those dogs. she was on a bed, and it was only a couple of hours.
>>3768184
>but I promised to check out for you some training videos, and have found some good ones and also crap ones.
Kinda pointless seeing how I've already trained her for all that.

Hey if you're so worried contact me on discord and next time I'm in your city/state I'll drop by and show you how care free Anya is.
cowboi062999

>>3768184
>If you don't want to buy a new (expensive) harness, you can get 2nd hand ones, but make sure you wash it in the washing machine first because it'll irritate and distract Anya otherwise.

It's not just about the expense, it's also the fact I think it's kinda cool. I braided it myself. It's also easier to clean. I let her roll in almost every mud puddle she finds, and that harness is easier to clean then anything short of chains.

>If Anya gets spooked by a loud noise or psycho dog, she might run into a car or bike, etc. and get injured or killed.

Doubtful. She fully understands the risks when it comes to vehicles. And we'll had run ins with aggressive dogs before. Whenever she see's a dog she looks at me for guidance. Sometimes we even try to catch stray dogs together.

I'm the type of dude who would let her run around in the woods for an hour in an area I'm not familiar with because I nearly fully trust her.

>>3768254
>LOL wouldn't that make me more qualified on the subject tho?
Not if you see nothing wrong with it having happened to you - then it just means that you had dealt with the abuse by accepting it as "normal" or "correct". People will have their children taken away into state care for doing such a thing, because it harms them.

>It's still fairly common in America.
I sure hope you're mistaken!

>She wasn't in a sardine cage like those dogs.
←

>Kinda pointless seeing how I've already trained her for all that.
It wasn't "training" though - at least not to any modern standards, maybe that's what was commonly done 100 or more years ago. Those actions would harm an intelligent being's spirit, rather than "training" them.
At least watch those 3 videos, please. I can also post those other trainers if you don't like that particular guy. He doesn't appear to have any testosterone, but at least the dogs seem to like him.

>next time I'm in your city/state I'll drop by and show you how care free Anya is.
Well, I'm an Ausfag so I doubt that would work… plus there's a secret that people here know but you don't yet… I'm actually a dog as well, and not a human. That's a reason why I feel so much for Anya. I've experienced hardships myself.

>that harness is easier to clean then anything short of chains.
Yes, that's true. I sometimes put on a harness when I'm doing farm work, pulling carts, fallen trees, etc. It gets horribly greasy and all the dust and dirt gets caked on. Nevertheless, if you purchase 2 or 3 second-hand harnesses, you can simply put one of them into the washing machine along with your work clothes (I wash them together with my doggie beds), and you'll always have a fresh harness on hand! :3

>Doubtful.
I hope so. Dogs that have been tied up like that can become unpredictable, but okay. I just wish that you could open yourself up to some new points of view - even if it makes you uncomfortable. It is apparent that she's well-fed and such, plus likely has a varied and adventurous life.

you should stop posting abused dogs and start posting loved dogs

>>3768292
That cookie needs some cream

Business Dog, you seem to be under the impression that posting dog abuse is somehow "owning" us, or trying to get us shut down.

What I actually deleted was a dog hanging from the ceiling by one leg being tortured to death.

Do you think that should have been kept up here? Why?

>>3768332
You seem pretty out of touch for a mod, are you CrippleWheels? Did you start seeing things "their" way after "they" broke into your home and left you a present or were you always a coward?

>Business Dog, you seem to be under the impression that posting dog abuse is somehow "owning" us, or trying to get us shut down.
I wouldn't have thought that way even as a teen dog.
>What I actually deleted was a dog hanging from the ceiling by one leg being tortured to death.
I have never seen that photo and wouldn't be able to save it to my hard drive anyway.
>Do you think that should have been kept up here?
No I don't, and don't even begin trying to build some kind of a moral case and argument you creep.
>Why?
So that last question wasn't a question after all, you snake.

Those photos of animal abuse that I have actually posted above are from news reports, and I've even linked to them. So, are you going to delete those on some kind of feigned moral grounds, or concern over getting into trouble with the bigger boys? Don't act as though this place doesn't have rules - once things get uncomfortable with your "owners" you'll fold like degenerate bitches. At least be honest about it instead of lying like filthy whores, and don't forget to list all of them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/iwxp5h/the_dog_was_much_happier_before_her/

Dogs exhibit jealous behavior because they are pack animals, viewing their human family as their pack, and feel threatened when attention is diverted away from them to another person or pet, perceiving it as a loss of their place in the pack hierarchy; this often stems from their natural instinct to guard resources, including their owner's affection and attention.
Key points about dog jealousy:
Pack mentality:
Dogs see their owners as the leader of their pack and want to be the primary focus of attention.
Resource guarding:
Jealousy can manifest as a desire to protect their "resources" like toys, food, or even their owner's attention from others.
Triggering situations:
Common triggers for jealousy include the arrival of a new baby, another pet, or a new partner in the household.
Signs of jealousy:
A jealous dog might whine, bark, try to position themselves between you and the other person/pet, become overly clingy, or even display aggressive behavior.
What can you do about it:
Fair distribution of attention:
Ensure all pets receive equal attention and affection, avoiding obvious favoritism.
Positive reinforcement:
Reward your dog for calm behavior when others are receiving attention.
Training:
Work on obedience commands and socialization to help your dog feel more secure and confident.
Consult a professional:
If your dog's jealousy is severe or causing problems, seek guidance from a certified dog trainer or animal behaviorist.