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061e5f2a No.3740116

Now that Windows is purposefully opening security holes so it can put ads in your start menu and popups on the desktop, which Linux flavor will you be switching to?

If you are running windows, you are the product. They are selling a record of everything you do online.

a9c068a7 No.3740118


You think they won't ban open source, like the EU keeps wanting to do?

Microsoft lobby, google lobby, etc. Want ads everywhere.

07ad8c89 No.3740131

Arch, because I am a programmer socks faggot and a masochist.

6473549c No.3740166

>>3740116

Just go full Neo-luddit and problem solved.
Im semi there. Only an old win 8 machine , TOR browser 100% of the time and use nothing that needs any sort of user or password login.

Sure, there is stuff I will have to do without but life goes on and the planet keeps turning oddly enough

4579dff8 No.3740464

Wow, Windows is just going fully off the deep end.
They are introducing new features in Windows 11 that include lovely tracking software to let them see a desktop screenshot of whatever you are doing every 3 seconds. They are calling it co-pilot. They say that it will allow you to go back and see how you did things or what went wrong so that you can more easily fix things but in truth they just want to know everything you are doing down to every tiny detail.

8f2a1faf No.3740468

File: 1716409343191.png (278.84 KB, 1898x1573, Microsoft Copilot.png)

>>3740464

https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/install-windows-11-without-microsoft-account

1. install Microsoft Windows 11 Pro as a local account (link above)

2. Never sign to an Microsoft account.

3. inside Windows 11 Pro, click APPS/installed apps & click Microsoft Copilot.

4. Click where it says " background permissions" "let this app run in the background" & click never.

I mostly use my PC for gaming, so I'm kinda stuck with using Microsoft, I hope this somewhat helps.

061e5f2a No.3740487

>>3740468
Yeah, that's not going to be an option for long. Microsoft has already closed down every loophole that lets you not log in to Microsoft account except one and I'm sure they are working on that one too. They are going full fascist because of the new Qualcomm chipsets coming out. The Snapdragon chipsets designed to work with arm architecture.

They want people to abandon their old technology and buy a new pc. Having to develop and support old technology cost them too much money. They want to force adoption of the new technology as fast as possible, even if that means using BitLocker or some other means to brick your computer.

4332ac05 No.3747778

File: 1721678727660.jpg (627.29 KB, 1280x1280, CrowdStrike-update-Newark-….jpg)

So hows that window operating system working out for you? LOL!

9ac3c13c No.3751143

New zero click exploit found on windows rated a 9.8 threat level out of ten. A buffer underflow exploit using malformed IPV6 packets. It is called a zero click vulnerability because you don't need to do anything for it to get nuked by code you are unaware is even running.

Patch your windows, you microsimps! Once someone creates a worm for this it's going to spread like wild fire.

b54dbcd9 No.3751166

>>3751143

Screw updates…Let it end everything!

Putin for world emperor!!

dd980829 No.3751210

File: 1724373644003.png (115.95 KB, 1540x1155, temp.png)

If you're not running TempleOS you're going to hell. Networking is the devils playground.

33811faa No.3751217

File: 1724378081582.png (518.35 KB, 1680x840, netbsd.png)

Anyone not using NetBSD is a lowly tyro.

477c42e8 No.3751948

File: 1725026105072.jpg (667.28 KB, 2448x2000, 997e010fd3f662d51868711e37….jpg)

Amiga OS!

bf1693b7 No.3751950

>>3751217
>net bsd's my own mother

24ab085e No.3755803

File: 1728523803524.jpg (212.74 KB, 730x407, Laughing-in-Mint.jpg)

As predicted, Microsoft has now made co-pilot mandatory and enabled "recall" as a part of every windows 11 OS.

Not only did they quietly turn on a system that takes screen shots of everything you do and sends the data to Microsoft, they made it a dependency for file explorer so if you turn it off improperly your windows won't work.

Enjoy having everything you do indexed and fed to the algorithm.

40bf8a93 No.3755820

File: 1728540718415.gif (2.49 KB, 652x93, guru_meditation.gif)

>>3751948
> Amiga OS!

0dccc9e4 No.3755823

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a8bfc632 No.3755831

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>>3755823

https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/g4pu5k/linux_on_a_8088_with_640kb_of_ram/

Sure its modified to run on such old hardware, but nonetheless very impressive.

a8bfc632 No.3755832

File: 1728556621813-0.jpeg (414.93 KB, 2048x2048, EozxKRQW8AILjsB.jpeg)

File: 1728556621813-1.png (10.79 KB, 600x199, archlinux-logo-light-90dpi….png)

I could be even more of a faggot and install Arch. All I would need is programmer socks and I could dramatically increase my power level.

24ab085e No.3755862

>>3755832
Don't encourage people to use Arch. Using Arch is like building a motorcycle from nothing. Sure your motorcycle will be "unique" but it will also probably be buggy and you'll have a harder time fixing problems on it.

Why build your motorcycle from parts when you can just use a working motorcycle and spend all that time enjoying the road?

Arch is for people who want to turn their computer into a game of dress up like a little girls do for their Barbies.

It's a great distro if you care less about using your computer and more about fixing your computer. But for the average user, Mint OS or Pop! OS are a much better choice.

a8bfc632 No.3755863

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>>3755862

Hence, why I said I would be more of a faggot. The install process is more fun to me than actually building a system. Something about it that is satisfying to me.

Arch is for /g/ ricers so I am told.

I used to use Ubuntu with MATE desktop environment and it was nice. I even made a bunch of keybindings tailored to my tastes. Whenever I finally dual boot it will be Mint.

bf1693b7 No.3755878

>>3755823
i could probably make a letter change but its easier to just use a key bind instead. like axaxaxaxaxaxaxa

c9726293 No.3755880

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I've been using Manjaro Cinnamon. It just works. It's basically a pre-riced Arch. Pre-riced means it's preconfigured and loaded with popular software you'll likely use. So it's Arch-based, but you don't have to build it from the ground up. Easy install.

I've installed systems that I built from the ground up, manually set up partitions, and compiled my own kernel and bootloader, including Gentoo. It's more trouble than it's worth imo. But it's whatever. Whatever you think is the best way to shuffle bits around.

d9fbb677 No.3755944

>>3755862
But that's like the core value of Linux.

24ab085e No.3755948

>>3755944
It was in the past but there are a lot of fire and forget systems now that work pretty much like windows without the bloat and spyware. Linux Mint, POP! OS, and according to tms, Manjaro works pretty out of the box.

Linux used to be pretty hard to get into but now days it's actually pretty easy and it lets you get a lot more use out of older hardware because it's more efficient.

723395b4 No.3755954

File: 1728624789098.png (418.62 KB, 1600x900, kali.png)

Kali for the win.

723395b4 No.3755955

>>3755954
plus if you're real cool, there is a command to switch it up so it looks like windows… you know so you aren't going all hacker mode in a coffee shop and someone
is like "dood you are totally hacking…

bc94d7e7 No.3755966

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>>3755962

723395b4 No.3755990

>>3755961
thats a throw back, I usually name my main computer "Mein Comp" because internet hate machine… but I usually name my main laptop "lappy" because strongbad.

723395b4 No.3755991

File: 1728657447882.jpg (136.29 KB, 1024x683, 35443351710_49c61dfed1_b.jpg)

I pretty much name all my stuff… my SUV is named "Miss Ubishi Endevoîr" very elegant.

39dc9194 No.3755992

>>3755990
I name my computers after heroic dogs, both real and fictional.

723395b4 No.3755994

File: 1728658990158.png (265.36 KB, 437x616, Profile_-_Thunderbolt.png)

>>3755992
Thunderbolt?

723395b4 No.3755995

>>3755994
I feel bad for even suggesting that… it shows my age.

Its a show from 101 dalmatians that had like 15 seconds of screen time, but as I kid I watch the movie a lot.

39dc9194 No.3755998

>>3755995
I have watched almost every single movie and show ever made, that had a dog as a major or minor character.
I've had lots of computers, too.
However, that name reminded me of Apple products too much. Not a fan of theirs, especially now that they've forever tainted Thunderbolt for me.

723395b4 No.3756000

File: 1728660145165.jpg (46.94 KB, 602x452, main-qimg-f889a8bb9e453676….jpg)

also interesting fact, after 101 dalmatians came out, the humane societies were flooded with them, both from puppy farms not being able to sell them, and people adopting them and not realizing how high maintenance they are.

39dc9194 No.3756004

File: 1728661870916.jpg (61.17 KB, 750x500, not-sleeping.jpg)

>>3756000
Yes, I now remember reading about that. That's happened to a lot of animals from (Disney) movies, such as Clown Fish that ended up getting flushed down drains and toilets apparently.
The masses are so easily swayed/influenced, it's quite unsettling.
At least we can do better than the masses though. All my pets that I had full control over, lived out their natural lives in my home; which is something that gives me comfort. Not everyone can do that of course, but I managed it and am glad.

PS: I have also read countless books and magazines about real life and fictional dogs as the major characters/subject. I still have so many books, they span various storage places because my doggie-home's too small to house them all. Helps to learn about oneself by reading about others, I guess. :3

Anyhoo, gotta go doggie bed nao. I hope you liked the videos I linked to. :P

(Pic unrelated, as it's showing the opposite.)

812b167e No.3758381

File: 1731090027663.png (523.14 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot 2024-11-8 1116.png)

Time to rip out this fucking cancerous operating system.

ecf6d5e3 No.3758418

File: 1731132376337.png (1016.1 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot From 2024-11-09….png)

Now we're cooking.

c68b4cae No.3758712

File: 1731561310213.jpg (57.77 KB, 795x595, BRILLIANT_.jpg)

>>3758381
>i'm going to free myself from the spyware and ads of Microsoft by switching to the only version of linux that includes spyware and ads by a company partially owned by Microsoft.

8cba2478 No.3758713

>>3758712
Its entirely up to the user whether or not they enable anonymous telemetry. Quit pretending you know shit.

8cba2478 No.3758715

>>3758712
TailsOS is what I use for sensitive matters btw

b35436a0 No.3758745

>>3758712
You're a retard. Go back to Windows, its what your kind use.

ea5c524b No.3758746

i put two linuxes together and they fused into a computer bimbo that does this weird ass2ass data sharing is this normal?

c68b4cae No.3758749

>>3758713
>Its entirely up to the user whether or not they enable anonymous telemetry.

It's not opt-in. It's opt-out.
Installing Fedora sends them info about you and your computer as you install it. THEN you have the option to stop it from collecting more data after it has sent them your system info, hardware config, and put cookies on your system.

It's spyware and it's not even the most user friendly version of Linux or the most cutting edge, or the best for gaming or the best for productivity. There are so, so, many better distros for whatever you want to do with your computer that don't come with spyware, using Fedora is just idiotic.

b35436a0 No.3758752

File: 1731625184117.jpg (483.9 KB, 1280x1306, linux-waifu.jpg)

>>3758749
I'm not going to put on a song and dance justifying my choice of OS with some anonymous prick. Keep huffing the farts.

c9726293 No.3758765

File: 1731639619036.png (223.25 KB, 1366x768, Screenshot from 2024-11-14….png)

https://ostechnix.com/manjaro-data-donor/
>Currently, MDD installation and data submission are manual. However, plans are in place to include MDD on all Manjaro systems and implement a systemd service for automatic data submission. This automatic data collection will be opt-out, meaning users will have to manually disable the service if they do not wish to participate.
Apparently, Manjaro will start including opt-out telemetry. As of this post, it's not installed. Been planning to install Arch on my other ThinkPad. If that works out to my satisfaction, I'll go ahead and install Arch on this one too to use as my daily driver.

The headless Raspberry Pi I'm using as a DNS ad blocker is running Debian. So that's another solid distro option.

c9726293 No.3758766

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>>3758765
Maintaining my Raspberry Pi is as simple as periodically SSHing into it and running:

sudo apt update
apt list –upgradable
sudo apt full-upgrade

6c330af4 No.3758768

>>3758767
I used to have an iMac G3 running Mac OS 9.1. Used iCab

0dccc9e4 No.3758793


Raspberry Pi Explained in 100 Seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ74x6dVYes

Microsoft Notepad.exe is overpowered now… and 13 other major updates for devs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyCVCGg_3Ec

d7a5f0b8 No.3758795

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>>3758749

I don't know where tf you're getting this information from, but it is blatantly incorrect. Are you believing random anons on /g/ or something? Read the proposal. I'm not going to spoon feed you.

c68b4cae No.3758797

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>>3758795
Red Hat just purchased Neural Magic, an A.I. company and the director of Red Hat has said quite openly that A.I. is the future of everything and to train that A.I. they need your data.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLZ-ALJvYTM

d7a5f0b8 No.3758798

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>>3758797

RHEL is not the same as Fedora. No AI bs. And what part of "opt-in" do you not understand? You clearly haven't read the proposal. I think at this point you're just trying to get a rise out of us.

c68b4cae No.3758800

>>3758798
Windows A.I. was opt-in when they proposed it too. Guess what it was when they actually implemented it? Do you really think Red Hat, which is a subsidiary of IBM and partially owned by Microsoft gives a wet slurp about your privacy? No, you are a resource to be data mined!

You're the product, buddy! Your data is what they sell to make their money.

d7a5f0b8 No.3758806

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>>3758800
>implying I won't immediately switch to Debian if shit goes south with RedHat and AI/telemetry becomes mandatory
You're talking to a guy that enjoys the install proceess. I'm going to keep an eye on the news.

Also, I ain't your buddy, guy.

c9726293 No.3761368

File: 1734057378068-0.png (61.92 KB, 1366x768, Screenshot from 2024-12-12….png)

File: 1734057378068-1.png (132.09 KB, 1366x768, Screenshot from 2024-12-12….png)

No matter your OS, you run into bugs from time to time. This one was confusing. I upgraded Anaconda (programming software) the other day, and after the upgrade, it wouldn't launch when I clicked on the graphical launcher. So I tried launching it in terminal (pic related), and it gives that error. A Google search later and I found this random forum post. Gave it a try, and lo and behold, it works! So I wrote a shell script with "export __GLX_VENDOR_LIBRARY_NAME=nvidia" followed by "~/anaconda3/bin/anaconda-navigator" on the next line. Then to fix the graphical launcher, I simply pointed it to my shell script instead of "~/anaconda3/bin/anaconda-navigator".

Do I know why it works? Not really, but that's how tech goes sometimes.

c990f9fd No.3768985

File: 1740841854758.jpg (21.64 KB, 522x161, So-efficient.jpg)

God damn, I love me a clean, bloat free system like Linux Mint!

bdc3d7cb No.3769010

First off, I'm posting my opinions based on the last 10 years of Linux and the run ins with sperlord-lord linux clanners:

Linux Mint: Linux for people who still want to interact on a human level, but also want a learning environment.

Arch Linux: Linux for hobbiests who want to be angry with other hobbiests.

Artix Linux: Linux for very lonely LARPers who need to hurt themselves because "nostalgia".

Slackware: Linux for actual autistic hackers who happens to be gay democrats. (CotDC)

Kali: Linux for people who (..think they..) work in IT and need something to "scare the normies" with.

Parrot OS: It doesn't work. Ever.

CAINE OS: I wanna be a US Marshal, but poor life choices mean that I just LARP at home.

Absolute Linux: My computer is like my girlfriend, mentally handicapped and a lot older than what I tell people.

I've tried a dozen more, to include a Server OS for lulz, but I gotta say, Linux Mint for new converts and people with real lives and real people. For the hermits? I just don't know. It all hurts like hell and the communities are just damned awful if not actively self sabotaging.
I got throw my dime down on Linux Mint because it just fucking works, has a good repo and flatpak library, and the only real bitching that isn't pure tinfoil in somebody having issues with proprietary shit and it's poorly support niche market patches.
Hope it helps, Bubba.

d6564c66 No.3769020

I just want linux with a beautiful, modern, unified UI. No, windows doesn't have a unified UI either, I know, they've still got apps with UIs that go back to the XP days.
But with how customizable linux is, visually, it's frustrating that linux UIs boil down to either "fine, but painfully flat and generic" or "beautiful, but only looks that way for a very specific set of apps"

0e21dfd4 No.3769025

I’ll probably use steam OS

20db41d7 No.3769053

Mac OS here

c990f9fd No.3769078

>>3769053
>Baby blanket OS.
Yeah, that tracks.

20db41d7 No.3769080

>>3769078
runs everything

673ff2ca No.3769086

>>3769080
It doesn't run your brain

c990f9fd No.3769105

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>>3769080
LOL!! Mac OS is crap! It's based on Unix that is layered with proprietary software and hardware locks that make it so it can't run anything without needing a special Mac only version that Apple can extort money from.

I read in a school that a long time ago, for a lot of people the only way to get on the internet was to use an America Online account but they never actually made it to the real internet. They only had access to a curated little garden of chat rooms and web pages that A.O.L. approved of them seeing.

People like Google, the Government and Apple want to bring that back by getting idiots like you to buy locked down, limited hardware that they can regulate from a distance so that you will never know what you can't get access to.

Right now if you live in red states the Christian right has passed laws that restrict access to porn sites in their states.

Give it time and I assure you, they will try and pass a national ban and when they do, your Mac'ntrash computer will update with a government approved blacklist and you'll be redirected to a page selling Bibles instead of being able to go to a furafinity or anything with remotely adult content.

2931b6e0 No.3769122

I just want a Linux with proper hardware support and drivers, not "somebody will get around to it eventually".

1fb9a96b No.3769129

>>3769105
Honestly, I'd have bought an Intel CPU MacBook.
Apple decided they didn't like competition, so they made their own CPUs. Bootcamp is gone. Only i am racist and not very brights buy M-series computers.

1fb9a96b No.3769131

>>3769129
nigger

705f8e27 No.3769133

>>3769131
niggers

97852b16 No.3769326

File: 1741477573047.jpg (211.38 KB, 1186x1382, nuggas.jpg)

>>3769133
nuggas

0dccc9e4 No.3770040

File: 1742512730762.png (7.1 KB, 680x216, how cooked am I.png)

well i'm cooked…

59298184 No.3770042


I'm hearing Linux is going to be forced to go to Rust

4e9bfc9e No.3770044

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>>3770042
Not "forced". Linux devs aren't a monolithic entity like Microsoft or Apple, they all have their opinions on the way things get done. It shows in the variety of distros.

As an aside, I want to try NixOS for a while.

0dccc9e4 No.3770052


0dccc9e4 No.3770053

File: 1742526699147.jpg (1.13 MB, 1800x1200, A-Leap-of-Faith.jpg)

Could you break things down before I move to another OS?

4e9bfc9e No.3770057

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>>3770053
You may not enjoy NixOS if you are a newbie. Prepare to scour the manuals. If you want things to just work™ then use Linux Mint.
You can install Mint alongside Windows with dual booting. Steam, WINE, Firefox, Libreoffice, and Krita is a good start.

Do your research and back up your files before installing!

8a74e70c No.3770059

>>3770053
For a no bullshit OS that usually just works for most things I would go with Linux Mint.

You can find other specialized versions for high end gaming machines, hacking boxes, servers, web hosting, or A.I. but if you just want a computer that you can use for your daily life like windows 10, I would go with Linux Mint. It's designed for ease of use and it has a very positive community.

https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmint/

0dccc9e4 No.3770060

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>>3770057

Plans ~

0. I have a screen monitor, motherboard, and a graphics card I just need to back up some files in 3 different hardrives to be safe.

1. Have all my files backup in another offline operating system on a laptop

2. Buy a brand new robust hardrive for the desktop that is compatable with Lunix Mint. for Steam games and Firestorm Second life for it to install.

3. have someone who could help not to screw up or missing anything important.

looks good on paper.

0dccc9e4 No.3770061

File: 1742540003199-0.jpg (104.61 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg)

Complete Linux Mint Tutorial: Getting To Know The Desktop (Cinnamon)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUC9RbrS0q0&list=PLrW4kXWyzgoKKLkdHTH8E5v_JboLeAITi

fa082139 No.3770076

>>3770061
The goal of the Linux Mint project is to be an easy to install, easy to use, stable desktop environment for people to switch to from Windows or MAC. You can make it work pretty much like either of those OS if you choose.

The updates for it are well tested and verified stable before they are released through the update manager so they won't have the bleeding edge new hardware support that comes with less stable OS but it also is unlikely to just crash and lose all your data.

You can, of course, install untested drivers for brand new hardware if you want. It won't stop you, but the official updates are designed to be stable and reliable more than having flashy, niche, features.

If you just want a desktop that works, Mint is the way to go. If you want a linux based gaming machine, I would go with PopOS that has a mode which makes your computer run like a X-Box menu system. It's pretty nifty.

a88111c6 No.3770116

>>3770044
>As an aside, I want to try NixOS for a while.

Well worth the investment. If you keep it simple, like one configuration file in /etc/nixos, it's not that complicated, probably way easier than other Linux in fact since everything is in one file.

I love being able to get all my HOME stuff in home-manager too, and get the same environment and softwares on say my desktop or laptop.

20db41d7 No.3770119

>>3770116 MixOS is better.

0dccc9e4 No.3770122

File: 1742645703929.jpg (65.2 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg)

>>3770119
NixOS Review - Can You Handle This Linux Powerhouse?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydBrfxBzwQo

20db41d7 No.3770125

>>3770122 MixOS is better than NixOS

37e23fcb No.3770137

File: 1742673985134.png (1.26 MB, 1330x939, normies.png)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEDoyaV6gEk

So now microsoft wants co-pilot to change your diapers while you game. And wipe your ass?

Isn't this just 1 step from a cheat bot that play the game for you?

Copilot is one of the single biggest reasons I want my next pc to be linux 100% with not even a windows partion

20db41d7 No.3770142

>>3770137 MIXOS IS THE BESTOS
EVEN TASTES BETTER THAN ASBESTOS

9599ab5b No.3770180

>>3770116
Most people aren't interested in turning their operating system into a part time job. Having to write your own config file for everything is a lot of work for a very minimal return on the time investment.

If you want to make that your hobby, go for it, but most people have other stuff to do like fuck your sister now that your Mom retired from the family business.

3b9c0f34 No.3770182

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>>3770180
GTFO glownig­ger.

Even if linux was as difficult as the glowie suggests (it's not), sacrificing freedom and privacy for convenience is still foolish.

2509f06b No.3770183

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>>3770180
Shoo. Anon is talking to me. Nobody asked.

Anyway, T495 enjoyer here. $100 on ebay cause someone didn't know how to reseat RAM, $100 to upgrade to NVMe and extra RAM. I love this thing. I also have the dock I got for free.



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