a9c068a7 No.3740118
You think they won't ban open source, like the EU keeps wanting to do?
Microsoft lobby, google lobby, etc. Want ads everywhere.
07ad8c89 No.3740131
Arch, because I am a programmer socks faggot and a masochist.
6473549c No.3740166
>>3740116Just go full Neo-luddit and problem solved.
Im semi there. Only an old win 8 machine , TOR browser 100% of the time and use nothing that needs any sort of user or password login.
Sure, there is stuff I will have to do without but life goes on and the planet keeps turning oddly enough
4579dff8 No.3740464
Wow, Windows is just going fully off the deep end.
They are introducing new features in Windows 11 that include lovely tracking software to let them see a desktop screenshot of whatever you are doing every 3 seconds. They are calling it co-pilot. They say that it will allow you to go back and see how you did things or what went wrong so that you can more easily fix things but in truth they just want to know everything you are doing down to every tiny detail.
8f2a1faf No.3740468
>>3740464https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/install-windows-11-without-microsoft-account1. install Microsoft Windows 11 Pro as a local account (link above)
2. Never sign to an Microsoft account.
3. inside Windows 11 Pro, click APPS/installed apps & click Microsoft Copilot.
4. Click where it says " background permissions" "let this app run in the background" & click never.
I mostly use my PC for gaming, so I'm kinda stuck with using Microsoft, I hope this somewhat helps.
061e5f2a No.3740487
>>3740468Yeah, that's not going to be an option for long. Microsoft has already closed down every loophole that lets you not log in to Microsoft account except one and I'm sure they are working on that one too. They are going full fascist because of the new Qualcomm chipsets coming out. The Snapdragon chipsets designed to work with arm architecture.
They want people to abandon their old technology and buy a new pc. Having to develop and support old technology cost them too much money. They want to force adoption of the new technology as fast as possible, even if that means using BitLocker or some other means to brick your computer.
9ac3c13c No.3751143
New zero click exploit found on windows rated a 9.8 threat level out of ten. A buffer underflow exploit using malformed IPV6 packets. It is called a zero click vulnerability because you don't need to do anything for it to get nuked by code you are unaware is even running.
Patch your windows, you microsimps! Once someone creates a worm for this it's going to spread like wild fire.
b54dbcd9 No.3751166
>>3751143Screw updates…Let it end everything!
Putin for world emperor!!
24ab085e No.3755862
>>3755832Don't encourage people to use Arch. Using Arch is like building a motorcycle from nothing. Sure your motorcycle will be "unique" but it will also probably be buggy and you'll have a harder time fixing problems on it.
Why build your motorcycle from parts when you can just use a working motorcycle and spend all that time enjoying the road?
Arch is for people who want to turn their computer into a game of dress up like a little girls do for their Barbies.
It's a great distro if you care less about using your computer and more about fixing your computer. But for the average user, Mint OS or Pop! OS are a much better choice.
a8bfc632 No.3755863
>>3755862Hence, why I said I would be more of a faggot. The install process is more fun to me than actually building a system. Something about it that is satisfying to me.
Arch is for /g/ ricers so I am told.
I used to use Ubuntu with MATE desktop environment and it was nice. I even made a bunch of keybindings tailored to my tastes. Whenever I finally dual boot it will be Mint.
bf1693b7 No.3755878
>>3755823i could probably make a letter change but its easier to just use a key bind instead. like axaxaxaxaxaxaxa
d9fbb677 No.3755944
>>3755862But that's like the core value of Linux.
24ab085e No.3755948
>>3755944It was in the past but there are a lot of fire and forget systems now that work pretty much like windows without the bloat and spyware. Linux Mint, POP! OS, and according to tms, Manjaro works pretty out of the box.
Linux used to be pretty hard to get into but now days it's actually pretty easy and it lets you get a lot more use out of older hardware because it's more efficient.
723395b4 No.3755955
>>3755954plus if you're real cool, there is a command to switch it up so it looks like windows… you know so you aren't going all hacker mode in a coffee shop and someone
is like "dood you are totally hacking…
723395b4 No.3755990
>>3755961
thats a throw back, I usually name my main computer "Mein Comp" because internet hate machine… but I usually name my main laptop "lappy" because strongbad.
39dc9194 No.3755992
>>3755990I name my computers after heroic dogs, both real and fictional.
723395b4 No.3755995
>>3755994I feel bad for even suggesting that… it shows my age.
Its a show from 101 dalmatians that had like 15 seconds of screen time, but as I kid I watch the movie a lot.
39dc9194 No.3755998
>>3755995I have watched almost every single movie and show ever made, that had a dog as a major or minor character.
I've had lots of computers, too.
However, that name reminded me of Apple products too much. Not a fan of theirs, especially now that they've forever tainted Thunderbolt for me.
39dc9194 No.3756004
>>3756000Yes, I now remember reading about that. That's happened to a lot of animals from (Disney) movies, such as Clown Fish that ended up getting flushed down drains and toilets apparently.
The masses are so easily swayed/influenced, it's quite unsettling.
At least
we can do better than the masses though. All my pets that I had full control over, lived out their natural lives in my home; which is something that gives me comfort. Not everyone can do that of course, but I managed it and am glad.
PS: I have also read countless books and magazines about real life and fictional dogs as the
major characters/subject. I still have so many books, they span various storage places because my doggie-home's too small to house them all. Helps to learn about oneself by reading about others, I guess. :3
Anyhoo, gotta go doggie bed nao. I hope you liked the videos I linked to. :P
(Pic unrelated, as it's showing the opposite.)
8cba2478 No.3758713
>>3758712Its entirely up to the user whether or not they enable anonymous telemetry. Quit pretending you know shit.
8cba2478 No.3758715
>>3758712TailsOS is what I use for sensitive matters btw
b35436a0 No.3758745
>>3758712You're a retard. Go back to Windows, its what your kind use.
ea5c524b No.3758746
i put two linuxes together and they fused into a computer bimbo that does this weird ass2ass data sharing is this normal?
c68b4cae No.3758749
>>3758713>Its entirely up to the user whether or not they enable anonymous telemetry.It's not opt-in. It's opt-out.
Installing Fedora sends them info about you and your computer as you install it. THEN you have the option to stop it from collecting more data after it has sent them your system info, hardware config, and put cookies on your system.
It's spyware and it's not even the most user friendly version of Linux or the most cutting edge, or the best for gaming or the best for productivity. There are so, so, many better distros for whatever you want to do with your computer that don't come with spyware, using Fedora is just idiotic.
c9726293 No.3758765
https://ostechnix.com/manjaro-data-donor/>Currently, MDD installation and data submission are manual. However, plans are in place to include MDD on all Manjaro systems and implement a systemd service for automatic data submission. This automatic data collection will be opt-out, meaning users will have to manually disable the service if they do not wish to participate.Apparently, Manjaro will start including opt-out telemetry. As of this post, it's not installed. Been planning to install Arch on my other ThinkPad. If that works out to my satisfaction, I'll go ahead and install Arch on this one too to use as my daily driver.
The headless Raspberry Pi I'm using as a DNS ad blocker is running Debian. So that's another solid distro option.
c9726293 No.3758766
>>3758765Maintaining my Raspberry Pi is as simple as periodically SSHing into it and running:
sudo apt update
apt list –upgradable
sudo apt full-upgrade
6c330af4 No.3758768
>>3758767
I used to have an iMac G3 running Mac OS 9.1. Used iCab
0dccc9e4 No.3758793
Raspberry Pi Explained in 100 Seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ74x6dVYesMicrosoft Notepad.exe is overpowered now… and 13 other major updates for devs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyCVCGg_3Ec c68b4cae No.3758800
>>3758798Windows A.I. was opt-in when they proposed it too. Guess what it was when they actually implemented it? Do you really think Red Hat, which is a subsidiary of IBM and partially owned by Microsoft gives a wet slurp about your privacy? No, you are a resource to be data mined!
You're the product, buddy! Your data is what they sell to make their money.
d7a5f0b8 No.3758806
>>3758800>implying I won't immediately switch to Debian if shit goes south with RedHat and AI/telemetry becomes mandatoryYou're talking to a guy that enjoys the install proceess. I'm going to keep an eye on the news.
Also, I ain't your buddy, guy.
bdc3d7cb No.3769010
First off, I'm posting my opinions based on the last 10 years of Linux and the run ins with sperlord-lord linux clanners:
Linux Mint: Linux for people who still want to interact on a human level, but also want a learning environment.
Arch Linux: Linux for hobbiests who want to be angry with other hobbiests.
Artix Linux: Linux for very lonely LARPers who need to hurt themselves because "nostalgia".
Slackware: Linux for actual autistic hackers who happens to be gay democrats. (CotDC)
Kali: Linux for people who (..think they..) work in IT and need something to "scare the normies" with.
Parrot OS: It doesn't work. Ever.
CAINE OS: I wanna be a US Marshal, but poor life choices mean that I just LARP at home.
Absolute Linux: My computer is like my girlfriend, mentally handicapped and a lot older than what I tell people.
I've tried a dozen more, to include a Server OS for lulz, but I gotta say, Linux Mint for new converts and people with real lives and real people. For the hermits? I just don't know. It all hurts like hell and the communities are just damned awful if not actively self sabotaging.
I got throw my dime down on Linux Mint because it just fucking works, has a good repo and flatpak library, and the only real bitching that isn't pure tinfoil in somebody having issues with proprietary shit and it's poorly support niche market patches.
Hope it helps, Bubba.
d6564c66 No.3769020
I just want linux with a beautiful, modern, unified UI. No, windows doesn't have a unified UI either, I know, they've still got apps with UIs that go back to the XP days.
But with how customizable linux is, visually, it's frustrating that linux UIs boil down to either "fine, but painfully flat and generic" or "beautiful, but only looks that way for a very specific set of apps"
0e21dfd4 No.3769025
I’ll probably use steam OS
20db41d7 No.3769053
Mac OS here
20db41d7 No.3769080
>>3769078
runs everything
673ff2ca No.3769086
>>3769080It doesn't run your brain
2931b6e0 No.3769122
I just want a Linux with proper hardware support and drivers, not "somebody will get around to it eventually".
1fb9a96b No.3769129
>>3769105
Honestly, I'd have bought an Intel CPU MacBook.
Apple decided they didn't like competition, so they made their own CPUs. Bootcamp is gone. Only i am racist and not very brights buy M-series computers.
59298184 No.3770042
I'm hearing Linux is going to be forced to go to Rust
4e9bfc9e No.3770044
>>3770042Not "forced". Linux devs aren't a monolithic entity like Microsoft or Apple, they all have their opinions on the way things get done. It shows in the variety of distros.
As an aside, I want to try NixOS for a while.
4e9bfc9e No.3770057
>>3770053You may not enjoy NixOS if you are a newbie. Prepare to scour the manuals. If you want things to just work™ then use Linux Mint.
You can install Mint alongside Windows with dual booting. Steam, WINE, Firefox, Libreoffice, and Krita is a good start.
Do your research and back up your files before installing!
8a74e70c No.3770059
>>3770053For a no bullshit OS that usually just works for most things I would go with Linux Mint.
You can find other specialized versions for high end gaming machines, hacking boxes, servers, web hosting, or A.I. but if you just want a computer that you can use for your daily life like windows 10, I would go with Linux Mint. It's designed for ease of use and it has a very positive community.
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmint/ 0dccc9e4 No.3770060
>>3770057Plans ~
0. I have a screen monitor, motherboard, and a graphics card I just need to back up some files in 3 different hardrives to be safe.
1. Have all my files backup in another offline operating system on a laptop
2. Buy a brand new robust hardrive for the desktop that is compatable with Lunix Mint. for Steam games and Firestorm Second life for it to install.
3. have someone who could help not to screw up or missing anything important.
looks good on paper.
fa082139 No.3770076
>>3770061The goal of the Linux Mint project is to be an easy to install, easy to use, stable desktop environment for people to switch to from Windows or MAC. You can make it work pretty much like either of those OS if you choose.
The updates for it are well tested and verified stable before they are released through the update manager so they won't have the bleeding edge new hardware support that comes with less stable OS but it also is unlikely to just crash and lose all your data.
You can, of course, install untested drivers for brand new hardware if you want. It won't stop you, but the official updates are designed to be stable and reliable more than having flashy, niche, features.
If you just want a desktop that works, Mint is the way to go. If you want a linux based gaming machine, I would go with PopOS that has a mode which makes your computer run like a X-Box menu system. It's pretty nifty.
a88111c6 No.3770116
>>3770044>As an aside, I want to try NixOS for a while.Well worth the investment. If you keep it simple, like one configuration file in /etc/nixos, it's not that complicated, probably way easier than other Linux in fact since everything is in one file.
I love being able to get all my HOME stuff in home-manager too, and get the same environment and softwares on say my desktop or laptop.
20db41d7 No.3770119
>>3770116 MixOS is better.
20db41d7 No.3770125
>>3770122 MixOS is better than NixOS
37e23fcb No.3770137
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEDoyaV6gEkSo now microsoft wants co-pilot to change your diapers while you game. And wipe your ass?
Isn't this just 1 step from a cheat bot that play the game for you?
Copilot is one of the single biggest reasons I want my next pc to be linux 100% with not even a windows partion
20db41d7 No.3770142
>>3770137 MIXOS IS THE BESTOS
EVEN TASTES BETTER THAN ASBESTOS
9599ab5b No.3770180
>>3770116Most people aren't interested in turning their operating system into a part time job. Having to write your own config file for everything is a lot of work for a very minimal return on the time investment.
If you want to make that your hobby, go for it, but most people have other stuff to do like fuck your sister now that your Mom retired from the family business.
3b9c0f34 No.3770182
>>3770180GTFO glownigger.
Even if linux was as difficult as the glowie suggests (it's not), sacrificing freedom and privacy for convenience is still foolish.
2509f06b No.3770183
>>3770180Shoo. Anon is talking to me. Nobody asked.
Anyway, T495 enjoyer here. $100 on ebay cause someone didn't know how to reseat RAM, $100 to upgrade to NVMe and extra RAM. I love this thing. I also have the dock I got for free.
9599ab5b No.3771815
>>3770182No one is saying you shouldn't use Linux. Just use a GOOD version of Linux. NixOS is not that.
40cdfca8 No.3771826
>>3771815The key thing here is
use cases and personal preferences. Don't give a shit? Use Mint. Want to learn something new? You bet. Here's Fedora, now go get RHEL certified, negro.
2315586f No.3771971
>>3771970My mistake its not being bought by activision/microsoft. Its being lead by former activision
As Discord is going public (so investors can ruin it)
0e7efdba No.3771976
>>3771971jason citron finally scraped enough CP out of the discord servers so he can retire comfortably into a goon cave for the rest of his life
20db41d7 No.3772001
>>3771971dunno how you can ruin dickcord more than it is
bc870ff6 No.3772039
>>3771761Quite frankly, I could easily have stayed with XP, which provided me with everything I needed.
f22b4676 No.3772113
>>3772111Steam runs natively as a software package for Linux. It doesn't magically run Windows games, so for everything else Windows related, check out the Wine project. It has come a long way. I have never set up Wine for Second Life, though. Can't help you there. Do some searches.
That screenshot features the KDE Plasma desktop. It packs a lot of function, along with some eye candy UI design.
Get Linux Mint. Others have given reasons why, so I won't rehash. The default desktop for Mint is Cinnamon (last I saw, solid choice), but they have KDE editions. This is Fedora, which is the community edition of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL). I'm getting familiar so I can get certified.
I'm old enough to remember it was called "K Desktop Environment". I initially got exposed to it by exploring Slackware as a middle schooler. I'd quietly print how-tos and manuals in the computer lab. The admins never got me in trouble for using the printer without permission.
0dccc9e4 No.3772115
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1kann5y/i_updated_our_password_cracking_table_for_2025/18 characters huh?
First password line of defence
123123123123123123 / f*8f^l3@T&d!6H%1x# / 987987987987987987
Second password line of defence
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA / ABABABABABABABABAB / ABCABCABCABCABCABC
Questions: What color is my underwear? m4u4hd0g1eizb*bl1ndshecan'2Ce4
0dccc9e4 No.3772116
>>3772115What is my password?
Mypasswordisnumber1
Muhpasswordisnumberone
Mvhp4*csh0w3r*dich1n*0m8ur*w^m
gonna have to make it more cryptic
0b003615 No.3772124
>>3772113> Steam runs natively as a software package for Linux. It doesn't magically run Windows games, so for everything else Windows related, check out the Wine project.There is a widespread misconception about what Wine is, however. It never was and never will be a full replacement for the current winblows OS. From the beginning, it's goal has always been to provide a stable subset of Windows features. The purpose is so developers of new software can make their software compatible with Wine, if they choose.
Remember, new software is rarely made only for the latest and greatest winOS, except for microsquat software. Instead developers choose which older versions of the OS, along with the newest, they are aiming their software for. Wine provides an additional platform they can include, if they want.
9599ab5b No.3772136
>>3772132We all know that the people trying to crack your system will be FBI or Homeland Security. They will have seized your key anyway
20db41d7 No.3772141
>>3772115most of my passwords are W#rew0lf or some combination
547c41df No.3772157
I have one master password to unlock my built in password locker so all I need to remember is one passphrase.
IAmTh3V3ryM0d3l0fAM0d3rnMaj0rG3n3ral!
Good luck cracking that in 3 attempts.
0dccc9e4 No.3772163
Ordinary language: I have a ver tiny pee pee
Encryption: e4e*h4ve*4*V3r1e*tie*kn3e*pe4*p3a
0dccc9e4 No.3772164
Or try this one;
my Indian men are beta males hiding in the basement.
M1e^yn*d3e^4nd*m1n^ar4*b3t4^m4l3z*h1d1nn^1n*d4h^b4zm&nt
20db41d7 No.3772338
>>3772331signing into microsoft is a pain enough.
b7f8a359 No.3772378
>>3772331It’s more social engineering, of the news-speak variety enabling a dumbing down of the public to slip back door controls of your life. .
If you don’t know your passwords that means someone else will. That means someone else will have COMPLETE CONTROL of your accounts. It’s not a theory, pic related.
9599ab5b No.3772388
>>3772331The microsoft push to pass keys is mostly for corporate security concerns.
I doubt most end-users will see it in their daily lives. The blow-back would be ridiculous if they tried to force that on people at home.
70ab9f73 No.3772394
>>3772388They're doing this by default. Based on what I heard you can opt-out (for now), but it certainly will affect everyone, not just businesses.
Same with full-drive encryption. I use a desktop PC that won't get lost or stolen on the street. I don't want that crap on a workstation.
A year ago I helped someone recover a fried Win11 laptop that BSOD'd on every boot, even in safe mode. First Windows PC in literally 30 years I was unable to fix without a clean re-install. Wouldn't boot Linux from a USB drive, either. Thankfully, it had a removable SSD that wasn't encrypted, so I was able to pop it into a Linux system and clone the drive.
Told me everything I need to know, so I will NEVER use Win11.
Alas, I can't get the latest Mint to boot on my PC for some stupid reason, so… dunno what I'm going to do to rid myself of Win7.
9599ab5b No.3772521
>>3772394>Alas, I can't get the latest Mint to boot on my PC for some stupid reasonElaborate? We might be able to help. Also there is a /LinuxMint on reddit where people are very helpful and experienced at getting older systems up and running.
41e7385c No.3772530
>>3771815> NixOS is not that.If by using Linux you mean spending hours installing stuff and configuring, then yes, NixOS is not what you want.
Compare:
"- Oh right, I didn't install Gimp yet.
- APT/dnf install Gimp.
- I'm missing the geek fonts, fuck !
- Install geek fonts.
- Ah right, need to add this plugin.
- Download from 3rd party website.
- Put in directory.
- Write shell wrapper to start Gimp with your plugin dir.
- Use Gimp
"
And
"
- Download your home-manager stuff from Git/share/google/etc.
- home-manager switch
- Start Gimp with fonts and plugin installed.
"
9599ab5b No.3772638
>>3772530If you running a decent distro like Linux mint you can just download gimp from the program manager and it works flawlessly.
I honestly don't know how you are having such a difficult time. You're like a Windows user who started off by installing dos instead of just installing Windows.
6fd4cea3 No.3772713
>>3772638The official disto repositories never have the latest versions and to get access to the repositories that do, you have to upgrade the entire OS to the nightly version and then suffer people breaking your shit by updates all the time.
The whole concept of upgrading your operating system just to get the browser updated to the latest version tells you how much of a pile of shit it is.
422c89cc No.3772745
I pity Linux users who write stupid shit like Op does, it's the same issue as every attempt humanity has made to create a free utopistic society, they always failed because:
1) Nobody wants to do the shitty jobs.
2) Nobody wants to work more without being paid extra.
3) Nobody likes having their free time/will being taken away.
Do you think all those Linux distros or free open source projects would had reached industry standards if it wasn't for corporations backing them up? Blender received MILLIONS from corporations, the open source community can't accomplish shit without their backing, maybe a 1-5% did, but you keep deluding yourselves that "you're running the world" and dunking on corporations, AH.
Then there's the issue of creating a real Adobe alternative for Linux, all those lists of free/paid alternatives on the internet are bullshit, they're okay for freelancers/home use, but are unusable for industrial use. FYI I tried every freaking open source encoder on the planet (ffmpeg, vidcoder, handbrake, etc.), but NONE could use 56/112 CPU cores on a single video, but Adobe Media Encoder did. Photoshop uses 56 cores out of 112 and took about 5 seconds or less to compress a PNG from 11.4MB to 9.15MB, while FileOptimizer used 1 core out of 112 and took 12 minutes and 49 seconds but did a better compression of 9.05MB, not worth it for this little gain. But most importantly, the whole freaking Adobe ecosystem, all of their apps can seamlessly exchange information between them, if I wanna edit a picture in a PDF I can do it directly, on Adobe Acrobat I right click on the picture > "Edit with Photoshop" > Save and it's already there, I can CTRL+C and CTRL+V anything from any of their apps, there're no barriers, no need to waste time exporting/importing/saving to other formats.
The only way to really beat Adobe is for every of those different open source communities to unite and follow a common goal and create an ecosystem like the creative cloud from Adobe, but it's not happening anytime soon because everyone wants to do their own thing, unless guess what, a corporation intervenes and pays them to do the boring and souless crap nobody wants.
Until then, Windows will have it's place, just like Linux have it's place, a lot of stuff takes forever to compile and make it work on Windows but in Linux takes 5 minutes, the point is, trying to do Windows things on Linux, is just being a masochist with too much free time.
635a9027 No.3772749
>>3772745>Do you think all those Linux distros or free open source projects would had reached industry standards if it wasn't for corporations backing them up?>doesn't know about Red Hat, Canonical, etcBro, you're retarded. Free software doesn't mean no one is getting paid. Free software doesn't even mean that it has to be given away for free, though it often is. Free as in freedom, not free beer.
Let's use furry porn as an analogy. Sexyfur's business model is akin to what Microsoft does. Bernal pays artists to make the most vanilla, broad-appeal, furry porn. Then he charges furries to access it and wages an eternal battle against piracy. Commission artists' business model is akin to free software. They get paid to create a work of art, and most want their art to be shared and spread far and wide. Because the artwork advertises their talents and nets them more commissions.
422c89cc No.3772752
>>3772749Misrepresenting my argument to make me more attackable, you think I don't know about commercial Linux distros? Who cares about them anyway, since my point is that NO LINUX DISTRO would be usable without corporate backing, you think Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Debian, Arch are not receiving support from corporations? It's called working for a COMMON INTEREST.
>Free as in freedom, not free beer.Freedom my ass, most Linux distros are under a GPL-V3 license, a disease that infects anything it touches and deprives people of owning what they create in the name of freedom, if they even dare using 0,1% of it in their product, even if you worked your ass for years to create the entire 99,9% of it. So you know what corporations did? To avoid getting their intellectual property stolen, they started to adopt more and more cloud/subscription based services, as it allows them to circumvent GPL-V3 by offering it as a service not a product. Quite the irony that any attempt to shove freedom ideals down people's throats has always got the opposite effect.
9f644d0b No.3772755
>>3772752No one is shoving Linux down your throat. If you don't want to use it, fine. Now fuck off, retard.
422c89cc No.3772756
>>3772755Op opens Linux > Windows thread.
I show points where Windows > Linux
Hurr durr if u dun liek Leenoox stop uzing it!
Linux fanboy in a nutshell, typical retards who limits themselves to one OS and end up like pic related instead of using them based on the situation.
9599ab5b No.3772775
>>3772757It would be more accurate to say:
On a Mac, you're the consumer.
On Windows, you're the product.
On Linux, you're a pirate.
70ab9f73 No.3772844
I don't want yet another GUI.
The PC industry has been around for decades and is very mature. All this GUI "innovation" is exactly the reason why everything sucks.
Just make a desktop environment with a dynamic template engine and let me craft my own workflow. For some idiotic reason, even the Linux community refuses to do that.
9ab8b9de No.3772868
>>3772867Xerox did it first
8f76f1a2 No.3772879
>>3772844You just described Arch Linux.
You start off with a command line and install whatever UI you want, or create your own if you have the skills to do it.
aec04861 No.3772894
>>3772844>For some idiotic reasonIt's because you want a standard so people can make widgets and apps with notifications and other UI elements that integrate well with the desktop paradigm rather than having to deal with whatever way you broke the schema by trying to be "90's unique".
For instance, the fact that there wasn't a fully standard or even a "de-facto" standard way on Linux DEs to have little tray icons meant that you didn't have things like NetworkManager for the longest time unless you hacked one in yourself. Everybody did it differently, and it was all broken all the time, so people just said "fuck it" and pulled a terminal window open whenever they wanted to connect to a wifi or change some other setting.
aec04861 No.3772895
>>3772745>The only way to really beat Adobe is for every of those different open source communities to unite and follow a common goal and create an ecosystem like the creative cloud from Adobe, but it's not happening anytime soon because everyone wants to do their own thingThe reason why the Open Source community will never produce a real substitute for Adobe's software is because they're program developers, not photographers or film-makers or digital painters and artists. At those roles they're amateurs at best, and essentially don't know what they're doing.
The reason why Adobe did it, and why they were so successful, is because they went to the professionals and asked "What do you need? What do you want?", and the professionals explained to them what they're trying to do and how it's supposed to work. Actual industry standard stuff, replicating real workflows, actual well-researched theory, actual color matching, filtering… etc. It had to be right before the professionals would pay you any money for it because they're not fucking around. You can't just phone it in and call it done, and ignore user complaints for the next 20 years.
The developers behind GIMP and the like don't do that, because they're not trying to sell the thing to actual professionals. They're happy if it looks the part and sort-of does the same thing - they don't care whether they're actually implementing the "warming filter 82" correctly - it's just a button that makes the picture slightly more brown and who cares how or why.
aec04861 No.3772896
>>3772752>It's called working for a COMMON INTEREST.Also known as Business-to-Business development (B2B). For instance, the big electronics manufacturers dropped big bucks on improving KiCAD to the point that it now rivals its commercial EDA competitors - because they have a common interest in having customers who have access to good EDA software in order to buy their services.
Meanwhile, all the parties that develop Linux just for the sake of developing Linux are having a paradox: they're giving the product away for free. Instead, they're trying to sell "support" and customization, which means it's better for their bottom line to leave the base system broken - but then nobody will buy it because it's useless.
d0f9140e No.3772897
>>3772844And let's be real, when people say they're "making their own thing", the best they can actually accomplish is something that is going to resemble a 90's dorm room in style and functionality. It sucks, but because you made it and got used to it, you don't really notice how much it sucks.
Like, an assemblage of random shit that doesn't match in style, furniture made out of cinder blocks and random bits of rotting particle board, and stolen road signs. Also, hey, is that an airplane made out of beer cans hanging off the ceiling?
