81ade6ba No.3719485
>>3719478there was a dr who episode that explored that notion. A giant space ship close to a black hole where the bottom of the ship was infinitely faster than the top of the ship.
Personally, I don't care for theoretical physics that can't be proven or disproven. I like facts, everything else is like DnD logic, fun to play with, but useless in irl.
81ade6ba No.3719493
>>3719489
or in his words.
Schlampe, die Scheiße ist abgefahren
81ade6ba No.3719494
>>3719488also really, we can barely get a ship into atmosphere. I'll never be alive to see viable space travel.
81ade6ba No.3719495
>>3719494hell N kora can barely launch a rocket without giving a slightly moist panic fart every time they hit the launch button.
03fd9ce5 No.3719508
>>3719494> I'll never be alive to see viable space travel.Maybe. SpaceX's methane fueled reusable rockets are interesting. It might be a good way to get to orbit.
Then if practical fusion power ever comes to pass, that would open up interplanetary travel within our solar system. Of course, practical fusion has been "fifty years away" for more than fifty years now. :-/
46ec1c5e No.3719518
The speed of light is more than the name implies; it's really the speed of causality. Going faster implies breaking causality. C is theorized to be the upper limit to how fast information or objects can travel. Alcubierre drives are thus most likely impossible to build.
https://youtu.be/msVuCEs8YdoCritical thinking question: The Higgs boson was created at the LHC by colliding two protons. The Higgs has a mass of 125.11 GeV, but a proton has a mass of 938.27 MeV. How is it possible to create a Higgs particle 66.7 times more massive than the combined protons that went into making it?
f141c066 No.3719521
>>3719478>no, you can not create a "warp drive" that goes FTL. >Typed unironically on a computer across a planetary network in a land protected by weapons that are autonomous. Witchcraft!
Its witchcraft!
WITCHCRAFT!!!
f385274d No.3719525
>>3719523>Mass increases>Relativistic massNo.
46ec1c5e No.3719551
https://www.npr.org/2023/10/15/1206041599/patrick-stewart-says-his-time-on-star-trek-felt-like-a-ministryRead this article recently. Do you consider Star Trek a spiritual wellspring?
>>3719530Really ought to be more precise with my language here. Meant "relativistic mass increases with increase in
the magnitude of velocity" i.e. with increase in speed, as stated in the above slide. If the velocity is negative, the relativistic mass increases with
decrease in velocity.
e3fcfb88 No.3719612
>>3719521if you prep the particles for warp drive maybe
assuming you just jump into warp and into oblivion maybe (a place with no particles)
or that you have kicked a particle in some sort of golden rule and you are going light speed without warping and moving thus is faster
c98bccfe No.3719681
>>3719530There is no relativistic mass there is only one mass which is invariant. It's not mass that increases but energy. You can't just arbitrarily attribute the gamma factor to mass. It applies to the whole equation. I don't know why they keep teaching this approach in schools. Probably so you can keep the classic p_vec = m * v_vec equation. However if you apply it to other classic equations like F_vec = m * v_vec you may get wrong results. If you evaluate F_vec = dp_vec/dt you'll end up with with a force vector that depends not only on the acceleration vector but also on the velocity vector. If you still try to uphold a concept of relativistic mass, you would have to accept that mass is now a vector that depends not only on velocity but also on its direction.
9e2009d2 No.3719682
>>3719680
as soon as relativistic mass occurs it occurs on a curve so the perspective must be invariant for an invariant mass
if the invariant change occurs its it must change the perspective still
this accounts for light-waves and the curvature of time space
a theory of relativity can be applied
and the perspective can hold special relativity in warp timespace or hyperspace or whatever that the perspective adheres to an invariant mass as a center of origin and that transfers as to the observed curve in whatever dynamic or change
that is how you give warp features in warp drive
and how its somehow not your head that is being "asymmetrified throughout congruency" until it eventually collapses into itself from a change of velocity or a hypercritical collapse resorting to order of magnitude (becoming a blackhole in spacetime)
46ec1c5e No.3719733
>>3719681>It's not mass that increases but energyNope. Pic related.
>classic equations like F_vec = m * v_vecNope.
F = m
a in Newtonian mechanics.
>mass is now a vectorNope. Mass is scalar.
36b20a09 No.3719745
>>3719733>Nope. Pic related.Mass can be converted into energy and energy into mass. Just like you can convert other forms of energy like chemical/kinetic energy. It doesn't tell you which form of energy is present and it does not tell you that you need increasing mass for special relativity.
>Nope. F = ma in Newtonian mechanics.True. I meant F_vec = m * a_vec. It was a copy&past error.
>Nope. Mass is scalar.Exactly. But it would become dependent on direction if you kept using relativistic mass in other newtonian formulas. You would have to introduce concepts like longitudinal mass and transverse mass.
All unnecessary if you accept mass as invariant and only use relativistic energy and momentum.
By the way, even Einstein said it himself. This paper explains it in more detail:
http://www.hysafe.org/science/KareemChin/PhysicsToday_v42_p31to36.pdf a77056fa No.3719780
Good evening everyone this is your local lulz thread commentator and oh boy doozy have we got a whopper today! Everyone knows star trek, everyone loves it, and if you've been around town lately you'll know the standard procedure is to immediately proclaim that DS9 was the best series because fuck Roddenberry, but our thread commentators tonight have decided to bypass that step completely and dive headlong into politics. Just to summarize what we've witnessed so far:
BD calling all 'leftists' pedophiles without ackowledging the catholic church, modern libertarian trends or Hitler's jewish loli. This was followed up by the hoy poloy of shills and the "I'm so right wing I have nothing to do all day but talk politics on a furry board" set declaring that Star Trek was left wing lunacy that wasn't popular, except that actually despite all evidence to the contrary Star Trek was a right wing show that celebrated fascism. After that astounding demonstration of insane political lensing the thread devolved into a sober ackowledgement that everyone involved is a massive star trek nerd, and also massive math/physics nerds, and just at this moment we may be on the verge of determining once and for all whether FTL travel is possible. Despite all of this activity the trickle of star-trek based furry porn has been pretty darn disappointing, though some points have to be given to the borg alien probe comic with the green bird guy getting it up the ass.
Back to you guys in the studio.
46ec1c5e No.3719829
For those genuinely interested in learning physics, I highly recommend The Feynman Lectures on Physics. They're kinda famous within the physics community. And they're freely available online, so no excuse. There's even a brilliant section on relativistic mass. ;)
https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/I_16.html>>3719780Pretty much.
46ec1c5e No.3719833
>>3719829Feynman's enthusiasm is contagious. Quote:
The mass of the object which is formed when two equal objects collide must be twice the mass of the objects which come together. You might say, "Yes, of course, that is the conservation of mass." But not "Yes, of course," so easily, because
these masses have been enhanced over the masses that they would be if they were standing still, yet they still contribute, to the total M, not the mass they have when standing still, but
more. Astonishing as that may seem, in order for the conservation of momentum to work when two objects come together, the mass that they form must be greater than the rest masses of the objects, even though the objects are at rest after the collision!
9e2009d2 No.3719983
Ftl Fuel can be achieved because energy pervades the limitation of matter and therefore a particle rides on a wave. The energy is relative to a lightwave in that the wave is adjusted to a faster than light frequency. To do this involves using the fuel-component as the engine itself. An antimatter fuel being used would be faster than light. Holding a superfluid-emp field in which this would occur and all its universal plasma altering properties it would be harnessed and fashioned as a faster than light-fuel-based capsule. The capsule may be fashioned into a ship-model made out of the hyperplasma. The hyperplasma would contain an event singularity in the enclosure of its superfluid, that would be the ship-environment. It could transport safely in a ftl condition throughout timespace as separate-from-lightwaves but in a field comparable to light "a universally quantum zerospace". As it breaks its warp in the distengration of its active superfluid (fuel exhaustion), it can release its singularity having piloted warp space into or from a "holographic enclosure" all while using antimatter fuel.
9e2009d2 No.3719985
>>3719983The fuel most likely most be fabriciated from a hub in which the ships may be activated or deactivated. Or self deactivating.
bd537261 No.3720076
The neckbeardery in this thread is astonishing and beyond my lengthy experience and imagination… so what are you and your beards doing to stop the real-life ww3 that's now being advanced into the next (global mass-extinction) phase by the zionists?
Question partially related to Star Trek, because according to that franchise, all the cool and good stuff started after almost every human/animal got brutally wiped off the planet. Problem is, that's just a sick zionist fantasy - the first ones to get killed during any major war are always the good ones, so we'll just be left with the trash that won't be able to do anything worthwhile.
36b20a09 No.3720129
>>3720076>so what are you and your beards doing to stop the real-life ww3 that's now being advanced into the next (global mass-extinction) phaseWhy would I want to stop it? We desperately need a reset.
81e63086 No.3720512
>>3720143All these right-wingers waiting for the end of the world will be the first to die. They don't have the education to survive in a world that isn't designed to keep the stupid alive.
81ade6ba No.3720600
>>3720512I admittedly have to agree.
Given my historic lines of work, growing up where I did, and living in Idaho for a few years, I've ran into a lot of preppers and mormons.
Even the most prepared ones I've me might have tons of ammo, enough guns to arm a small army, dehydrated food to last someone a fallout sometimes even with a bunker, and occasionally "end of the world seed banks."
… But most of the time the seeds and food are way past expiration, guns only get you so far, even for hunting. Look at the great depression era, poaching was so bad that you couldn't hunt out of season if you wanted to, it was all tapped out. Plus even if you have an old nuclear bunker, chances are the filters were solidified, and no maintenance was ever done since the 80's, and even if you did keep it up and running, they would never protect you from the atmosphere igniting 300x over like our current scorched earth policy guarantees.
Personally, I'm not worried about an end of the world event. If the Fallout series has taught me anything, just having a german shepherd increases my survivability rate astronomically. Unless its a zombie apocalypse, in which case my shit splotchy beard almost guarantees early death.
81ade6ba No.3720602
>>3720600Not saying I have a shit splotched beard right now, but there is a reason I just rock the goatee, literally everything else grows in at random, some of it not even the same color. Its a disaster. It tested it out during the quarantine, and it came in making me looking like a patched together hobo who was just introduced to the concept of a razor, and stopped half way through the experience.
81ade6ba No.3720722
>>3720721>>3720706hey, we've already settled that I'm surprisingly attractive. I just can't grow a beard. Sue me, at least I don't have the bald gene.
On the plus side, not having body hair goes with the beard thing. I never have to shave… well my arm pits are out of control, but thats just like 30 seconds a month to trim those down.
