/furi/ - Yaff

Implying that last just for the sake of lasting? About as anything else that is built with that foresight of investing any effort in. If you want a normal fling that's likely what you will get in any case.

I know of a few, including one relationship that has lasted over a decade (but are no longer furries, does that still count?). They got married years back. All the other marriages I know of seem fine.

I've been in my relationship for practically 4 years and still going strong.

If the girl wants it to last, it'll last. Guys don't file for divorce that often. With gay idk, I never really run into gays that are bitter because they've been through a divorce. But gays being able to get married hasn't been a thing that long.

Isn't Kayla-Na still married?

Some things always just seem like a nuclear bomb to a marriage like getting the stomach staple and losing tons of weight from it. I've seen it destroy online marriages and irl.

Almost every irl marriage I know, thats lasted 10+ years. They are dependent on each other. Usually the wife doesn't work.

The saddest case was a girl that had agoraphobia and even leaving her house terrified her. So she basically never did. And she died of cancer, because she didn't want to get treated.

If thats not the case, the wife has been fat.

Can't think of any irl long lasting marriages I know where the wife was hot and working a real job. Just little things like working at a fruit stand during the summer for a little vacation money.

>>3687978
Marriages are always a shitshow. No one gets it that love is a chemical reaction in your brain that makes you retarded in order to facilitate reproduction. Sometimes people find a match but usually it's "love" and pressure to get hitched and have kids and there isn't anything beyond that, so shit gets disfunctional pretty fast pretty easy if they aren't aware of that. General relationships (friendships, partnerships, etc.) tend to wind up disfuncuntional anyhow, so there's gotta be some sort of reason for a marriage to continue beyond love, either a codependent situation (which just means the two rely on eachother) or some 'functionally broken' non-relationship where they just stay together for practical reasons. I mean if you have an open marriage to someone you're operating a household with it's a lot more stable than being in a situation where an affair at the office getting found out brings the entire kids-and-the-dog family into a divorce court because 'fidelity matters.' People get married when they're young for love, when they're middle-aged for business, and when they're old for companionship. In between that is a shitload of personal conflict, but it's either that or being alone.
That said I think it'd be pretty dumb for people to marry based strictly on rolplaying their OCs together. On the other hand it seems like furries tend to make strong personal connections so I'd think that'd work out better than marrying someone for their looks or because your parents put you together in high school.

>>3688005
>That said I think it'd be pretty dumb for people to marry based strictly on rolplaying their OCs together.
Not just marriage but "internet relationships". If it is not practical to see my partner at least semi-frequently, that's a no from me, fam. I have fallen into that trap when I was younger.

>>3688005

I mean under a system pre-retirement parents had a real fucking motivation to know their kids real good and pick partners real well for them. Because if they failed, their retirement was on the line.

And because of the parents being against the breakup, as well as society it rarely happened.

Wish I had grown up under that system a lot more. Countless hours, absolutely countless hours wasted worrying about partners and things. It would have been soooo sooo much easier to just have been at 13-18, "Heres who you'll marry and spend your life with. Get to know them."

It was the same system where like the vows said "You own each other's bodies." Like if one of you decided, I don't want to give my partner sex anymore, you don't get to make that choice.

Is that mean? Yeah, but it also bound you together in a way you weren't with anyone else. You owned them and they owned you.

Did it suck if your parents picked wrong? Yeah. But does it also suck if you get divorced and lose so much money you end yourself? Yeah.

Between two evils I'd much rather have had arranged marriage. Over the degenerate society of e-thots, simps, marriages seen like lottery payouts to women and governments, etc

When I was a young I just wanted to get married, to get it out of the way so I could stop worrying and sweating about impressing people. To put on my best little act, get hitched, then relax back to being a normal, lazy, piece of shit.

Because almost no one I knew irl as a kid got divorced and I didn't believe in divorce myself. As someone raised in a household where people stayed together no matter how fucked up they were or toxic for one another.

>>3688008

So if the father is an abusive piece of shit, they should stay married? What is this, 1950?

>>3688010

Yes, they should. Because thats what marriage means.

It was never "Ummmm, like i thought i like, liked like you, but now I realize I only like you."

Give me 30k of your money now a month and don't speak to me or see me. I have a restraining order. Because I punched myself in the face with your wedding ring and told the cops you did it, teehee.

>>3688011

One of my friends at a Christian homeless shelter had almost completely divorced (a bit more paperwork to do), then the staff convinced her to give her husband another chance. Her husband beat her within an inch of her life.

You know nothing.

>>3688012

You gave one example. I gave one example. Earlier I said both system have evils.

You know a girl that tried to make it work and almost died? Green ranger knew a girl that didn't and killed himself.

The system where it can end for any reason. And one person makes out. Is causing guys more and more to give up on marriage.

I totally gave up on it myself. Because there is no security for the man in a post no-fault divorce world.

I could marry a girl. Work myself into a hospital bed. And she leave me because she just ain't feeling "The butterflies" anymore.

She could leave me because my best friend gets ripped and starts flirting with her.

I think having security in marriage is the most important thing of all. Above all else. Even if your partner is a piece of shit.


And I don't just mean for me. I'd like my partner having the same sense of security that if they gained some weight, or did a life choice I disagree with I'd stick with them. Like I find hunters to be repulsive. Completely, totally repulsive. But I'd still stick with them if they became a hunter.

My guy friend his father ditched his mother on the hospital bed when she got cancer, And he wouldn't pay. So this easy leave cuts both ways.


If anyone can leave a marriage for any reason, at the drop of a hat. Thats not being married. Thats called dating and cohabitation.

Agree to disagree, I guess

Relevant music:
That Handsome Devil – Party Mom and the Invisible Dad
https://youtu.be/KIfDOHpbZMI

The Mountain Goats – No Children
https://youtu.be/fqGKZ3fzN1M

You all should watch Moral Orel. Seasons 1-2 are alright, but eventually in Season 3 is when shit starts getting into a trainwreck. Also, I found The Mountain Goats because of this show.

>>3688014
When I said mirnerva mink was ok in that post last night, I didn't expect you to start talking about marriage. Something went horribly off rail mentally here.

Once all my gen, my brother's gen, the boomers, etc are gone. Who's gonna be promoting marriage?

When I was a kid, who promoted marriage? Disney, with the happily ever after.

Now they promote woke, right?

And if no one is promoting it. And guys know its a bad deal. And you don't need to marry to sleep with a woman. And if if you sleep with the woman you've married she can still cry rape.

And the lawyers tell women to lie in a divorce and say domestic violence and stuff so she gets more money and EZer child custody.

But that completely tanks your reputation and even an allegation of domestic abuse can get you canceled from your job.

Where if your not married to the girl, she might have no reason to claim domestic abuse because she's not entitled to your stuff. So being unmarried might even be safer.

Marriage is in a terrible place. And has a terrible future without changes.

>>3688018
domestic abuse is a double edged sword. True if you abuse your wife, you're a fuck stain. Then if you get abused by your wife youre also a fuckstain. Women get away with everything. At least in American society.

Just look at the stats for women who commit this stuff. Its not misogyny, its just facts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1pVLJl_snc

At first I was confused by 11:05- but it finally clicked.

Opal (Claire) becomes the Grandpa’s eyes, the Dad’s face, and Mom’s pill.

Claire is forced to act as the adult in this household.
She does things for her Grandpa like fetch his cigarettes for him. Acting as his eyes.

She is forced to endure her Father’s long rants in which he talks himself up and insults her to boost his self esteem, acting as his face.

And she is forced to listen to her mother’s rants, calming her down, acting as her medicine.

It’s not just something like physical abuse or neglect, those may be components, but I think the real horror depicted here is one of a child forced to be the emotional foundation for her entire family. All the while, what she really wants, is just to be seen and appreciated.