[FURRY DRAMA] "fiddleafox" says on Twitter: she is retiring from posting anything on all social media after "private" Discord racist messages were leaked to the public.
I like their furry artwork, but my main problem is the artist refused to draw any lewd artwork of their OC's. now that the internet has found out she is racist, lewd artwork of her OC is being flooded on the internet.
Your thoughts /Furi?https://twitter.com/fiddleafox/status/1418567777389092864https://e621.net/posts?tags=averi_%28fiddleafox%29
I think you need to post the lewd artwork here.
black people are very sensitive faggots.
black people are very radical…and murderous faggots.
DGAF honestly. Another "Who?" leaving the fandom FOREVAH.
I do find it rather amusing that their post "katrina was when kanye said bush doesn't care about black people right" is proof of racism.
>A tumblr artist that isn't insane.
>Attacked for being "racist."
We need to bring back the dialup tone but replace it with a voice that just says "N I G G E R" to keep these people off the internet.
I wonder what did black people do to this particular artist to get so much hate.
shit on her car, obviously.
My thoughts: she'll be back and I'll be watching her for the cute foxes.
Are there any pictures or videos of Fursuiters pissing or shitting? Please share if you have any.
both towards you for making this, and towards the retard that just discovered swear words who wrote that 4chan post.
Fiddleafox is my spirit animal.>>3621008
You know why it's fun to say niggеr?
Because you get mad.
(also I bet you're not even black, because if you were, you'd be dishing out some insults of your own instead of whining that people use mean words towards your pets
Alright, that's it, this means war.
Probably because she's super racist, it loops around:
african american -> black people -> blacks -> n* -> coon -> african american -> black people -> etc…
I'd say she is racist ^ 6
If I wanted I would totally within my rights to say i am racist and not very bright and chink because
I'm not racist and because I only spend time with people above those words who know it's a fucking joke and swear words. It was this for 20 years, I knew truly racist people, today culpability is no longer measured by intentions, just tons of ulterior motives. The way we talked is so far from institutionalized racism because the joking was meant to defuse
the racism. We all watched the same 90s cartoons where every series had an episode against discrimination. Most of us accepted racism was unacceptable, that's specifically why we made fun of it, you're imitating a racist just like swearing with christ. The black kids we knew were not pussies or lowlife gangbangers. Now we have legions of super irritable kids who take every word literally, because university tuition cartels and dogma distorted the political axis and priorities of an entire generation the result of which is making black people look both impotent and violent which the ones I knew never were. They use anti-white to confound with anti-colonialism and anti-british sentiment in politics and you all fall for it and it keeps north america nicely divided and ripe for the taking by rich people, enjoy your mass evictions and land takeovers.
>>3621047>We all watched the same 90s cartoons where every series had an episode against discrimination. Most of us accepted racism was unacceptable
And then we grew up and realized that those cartoons were funded by propagandists, and then they swarmed our countries with tolerant abduls of religious peace.
>>3621047>Why do black people have to be so sensitive about racism?>>3621051>Anti-racism is propaganda! We all know racism is the truth!
Isn't it great how the racists always show up to prove exactly why they deserve to be treated like the scum they are?
did this really need a second thread? >>3620616
They are 2x different threads, one is going into detail about the drama, the 2nd is talking about how fiddleafox is retiring from posting on all social media.
Yes this fiddleafox is a racist person that needed to be talked about in 2x separate threads, which were posted from 2 separate users on /furi.
Don't make a fuss. At least it is on topic actual furry related drama, as apposed to the bizarre unrelated pol shit that a mental case keeps posting.>>3621093>>3621093>>3621093>>3621093
You are splitting hairs to evade the fact that one thread poster is an idiot who can't use the catalog.
Elements of truth, but I've never been an anti-immigrant like you.
Ah yes, the diversity of opinion that black people are human beings instead of base animals who rape so much they need to wear shock collars. Truly, a diverse set of viewpoints.
Always telling, I never pinned Nick to any particular race except a fox, otherwise what's the point of being a furry? If it's about what we choose to be, according to modern liberalism - the part I agree with, why do they program people's emotional triggers to be their skin color at birth?
>>3621115>but I've never been an anti-immigrant like you.
I wonder if those very immigrants that you support would feel the same about immigrants in their own countries.
I'm going to address the 2nd thread here
because having 100 threads over the same topic is stupid.>>3620616>google docs link>"We do not want or approve of needless harassment at Fiddle or anyone else">proceeds to dox her
Fucking hate this fandom.>>3620626
I know, right? I'm straight for her.
I grew up in the 90s. You just had black people, and nobody thought a thing of it because why would you. Then hip-hop and social justice happened.
If there's something making people racist, then it's:
1.) THUG CULTURE
3.) riots, looting, BLM, the whole damn lot
Nobody is saying that racism doesn't exist, but it seemed rather rare anyway and you can hardly call it institutional when every single fucking institution
goes out of their way to help them, even 'to our detriment. And then we don't even complain when WE were racially discriminated against just to give them a leg up. Cause you know, maybe it helps, and they had a rough past, don't wanna be the asshole in the room, yadda yadda.
And nobody's saying that the racially discriminatory laws and policies had no effect on their current ability to study in a good school and earn a good income. But you just gotta draw the line somewhere and say "okay, from now on it's your responsibility, you gotta put some work into it cause look around, everybody does". And to FIX it, you can't just give people stacks of cash, the whole "muh reparations", you have to hand out specific stipends for courses, certifications and degrees, tax refunds for fulfilling certain criteria and performance stats (ex. having a clean criminal record, having finished highschool, having no kids out of marriage), you know, benefit people in ways that help them help themselves. That's how you fix the problems that lead to making us hate them. Cause nobody wants them to be criminal wastes of space.
My attitude kinda changed seeing they're ungrateful cunts. In general. Cause it's never enough. Nothing is ever enough. And it's never their fault.
And for whatever reason, the blacks that grew up in majority white areas I find most relatable. I don't care if that's some form of bigotry or -ism, but if it shows one thing, it's that it's not about skin color
. Hasn't been for 50 years.
Race relations are a fucking dumpster fire because we let the subversive socialists teach black people that it's all our fault and that refusing to integrate is a good thing. Well, it sure as fucking hell ain't MY fault, I never enslaved anyone or signed away anyone's rights, and if they don't fit in and behave in uncivilized ways, I can't be expected to like them.
>>3621047>>you all fall for it and it keeps north america nicely divided and ripe for the taking by rich people, enjoy your mass evictions and land takeovers
It's just divide and conquer. Those motherfuckers pay close to no taxes while we're being taxed into poverty and homelessness.
Making us hate each other keeps us busy from looking into what they do.
I identify as a capitalist, you know, own property and the fruits of your labor, but there's gotta be some sensible limitations, like health and safety norms or protecting the environment. AND ESPECIALLY nobody needs to make a billion dollars. There's no job that could possibly be worth that, that's just worker exploitation - and that's the line where your freedom to rake in the cash ends.
People shouldn't be able to take home x1000 what the average worker in a company does, end of story, there's just gotta be a cap on that, and to raise the cap, you raise people's wages, the rest gets reinvested instead of going into yachts and mansions, everyone wins.
>>3621128>People shouldn't be able to take home x1000 what the average worker in a company does
Then they'll just pay themselves with shares or stock options "that's not an income it's an investment!"
There are only 680 people on the entire earth that are worth a Billion dollars or more. Worry about something else.
I am more lenient towards owning shares cause anyone can buy shares and anyone can benefit from company dividends.
I have myself put some of my savings in low risk low reward investments back then when I had a job, I think ~3000$ at most. Sold everything off in a couple of batches, cause life happens, last year sold everything cause I needed my money. Overall I made a couple of hundred bucks, not bad I guess. Probably not for anyone, it's still a bit risky, but it's an alternative to hiding the cash under the mattress. I mean if a nobody like me who buys used clothes can do it, then anyone can.
Setting a cap on dividends may be doable though.
The kind of money you'd put in a small or medium business would fall well under the cap, private citizens investing in multinational companies would also fall under the cap, and the truly obscene amounts of money that billionaires have would only affect big companies, which have more financial leeway anyway and can deal with a reduction in investments better. As long as there's a transition period, the economical impact should be negligible.
>>3621302>>You'll have identity crisis.
Because I'm smart enough to recognize that the choice is on a spectrum between freedom and regulation, not between communist and ancap.
Meanwhile you are literally posting communist propaganda. Fucking look at yourself.
>>3621316>between freedom and regulation
Those are on different axis. Leninism is bottom left, I bet you didn't know Lenin is the biggest democrat in human history, one cannot get more democratic than Lenin.
You've already said you are for regulation, it already means you are left. But sorry, capitalists will not let you take their money. After all they had to share with you after the formation of USSR, now they are just taking what is theirs.
And no, that wasn't communist propaganda, but this is.
>>3621320>Lenin is the biggest democrat in human history
If by "democrat" you mean "backstabber". Oh wait, they're synonymous anyways.>>3621128
You cannot be a capitalist because you do not employ laborers. Wage earners are themselves not capitalists, instead it's those who hold the power of capital over them.
The distinction is because the capitalist owns you first and pays you second. Their ownership of the means of production means that you must turn over all your productive effort to the capitalist, and they decide to give you back some scraps of the fruits of your labor. The point of communism is that ALL of your labor belongs to you.
Unfortunately, as communism goes, all of your labor belongs to the state and they decide to give you back some scraps of the fruits of your labor.
>>3621330>>Wage earners are themselves not capitalists
Unless you invest. Even just a little. Which more people should do. I mean even if you on your own can't do much, if you _and everybody_ decide to suddenly sell their shares for whatever reason, you can crash a fucking company.
>>and they decide to give you back some scraps of the fruits of your labor
Putting the cart before the horse. You NEGOTIATE a pay contract. If your skills are rare enough and you know they need you, you have them by the balls and can demand higher pay. If people with your skills are dime a dozen, you are lucky to get the job and if you don't perform you can get kicked out at any time.
Which is why a STEM education or a skilled trade is a good idea. Anyone can serve a fucking coffee or make you a hamburger or scrub the toilet. They could literally get a hobo off the street and train him in 10 min to do your job. But not anyone can swap out a plane engine or create and deploy a modified OS image over the network to a thousand computers or operate a CNC mill or program a micro-controller. And if skills are unique enough and your job is time-sensitive enough and you decide you're not really feeling this whole being employed thing, you can cause millions of dollars worth of damage until they manage to pick up the pieces and find someone else who can do your job.
If you got shit skills, you deserve to be under the boot of your employer.>>3621320>>Those are on different axis
Not really. Regulation is an expression of the authority of the state.
The left vs right distinction exists, for sure, but it's less important that authoritarian vs libertarian.
If you have too little, it may be free, but it's the Slab City kind of free. As in, an anarchist shithole. Fucking Mad Max the movie, but IRL.
And if you have too much, pick any authoritarian regime, commies, nazis, theocracies, censorious modern nanny state "democracies", it's a different kind of hell where the bureaucrat holds the whip over everybody and you suddenly have to follow a thousand useless rules to not have your life destroyed.
Also Lenin was a filthy mass murderer, with 3 million lives taken. This would be remarkable if Stalin and Mao wouldn't pull a "hold my beer, comrade" in a few decades.
>>3621444>Unless you invest. Even just a little.
Common stock carries with it the theoretical right to vote on company matters, but in reality it limits you to choosing the board of directors. Preferred stock and bonds give you dividends, but no voting rights.
Owning stock makes you about as much a capitalist as voting for the president makes you the president. You have to own a really significant portion of the company stock before you get any real economic power.
>Putting the cart before the horse. You NEGOTIATE a pay contract.
No you don't. You take what is on offer, or you go beat the streets. The capitalists maintain a perpetual state of unemployment and an over-supply of professional workers to keep the negotiation advantage on their side. For example, by lobbying the state to fund redundant high education in STEM fields out of tax money, to get cheap engineers.
>>3621444>You NEGOTIATE a pay contract.
That's also reversed for the point of communism: YOU own all the products of your labor, and the factory owner works for YOU, not the other way around. You pay wages to your "superiors" who are responsible for organizing the work and the means of production which belong to the workers. It's the boss who has to negotiate their wages because they own nothing in this business, not the worker who owns everything.
Under capitalism, the only job of the capitalist is to make profit. Everything else they can delegate down to other people for a little bit of money, and everything the other people produce becomes the property of the capitalist by default. This always puts the capitalist at an advantage in the negotiation, because without them nobody gets paid for anything. The only concern for the capitalist then is competition from other capitalists, which tends to bring prices down and wages up, but will never reach the point of removing the capitalist out of the loop entirely because all companies are owned by capitalists who will not compete to the point of removing themselves.
Of course, what makes communism dysfunctional is its treatment on what is "the people". Paraphrasing Marx, the people are not individuals but the interrelations of society, which is like saying that a forest is not made of trees.
The "people" being defined such as something other than the actual people, the ownership of the means of production then falls on this abstract entity which in practice is equivalent to the state. The state then acts like the capitalist and collects everything to itself by default, and gives back little scraps to the actual people.
Under this system, how do you climb the ladder of prestige, status, and income?
I'm just thinking of a scenario where let's say I work and save, or take out a line of credit, and buy my own Caterpillar backhoe, maybe the same model I leaned to use on the job at the construction company, to start an excavating business of my own, then I buy a second one a few years later, and hire an employee who I train on the job, and then buy my own dump truck a few years later so I don't have to contract out or rent one, and hire a second employee to operate that..
At what point, along this process, do the employees I hired have a claim on the equipment I worked and saved for? When do the people who didn't take out a loan and put their house or car on the line as collateral, get to come in under government supervision and take back the means of production? What's the process there?
I guess they just steal it from you, with new laws and paperwork. That's probably why it's popular with worthless lazy Democrats and so-called minorities.
>>3621474>>but no voting rights>>You have to own a really significant portion of the company stock before you get any real economic power
I vote with my money. Those who don't do things my way don't get it.
>>No you don't. You take what is on offer, or you go beat the streets.
Spoken like a true toilet scrubber.
How about this, after my contract of my 2nd job expired (because I was just replacing an employee temporarily, I knew that from the beginning), I near instantly get phonecalls from another company, insisting for an interview. They called several times. I already had money saved up and I felt like taking it easy and coasting on my savings for a few months. Turns out they were _desperate_ to hire me, because they really needed a few extra skilled employees to handle a time-sensitive problem and their deadline was coming up. Since I had no intention of actually working, I bullshitted them on my pay negotiation and got like half of what I asked extra for. And my temporary contract got extended indefinitely after a few months, cause I did my job well.
If YOU have zero usable skills and are absolutely replaceable you stupid commie, that doesn't mean everybody is.
How about get some skills.>>3621476>>the point of communism: YOU own all the products of your labor, and the factory owner works for YOU
You live in fucking fantasy land.
YOU are PROPERTY OF THE STATE and when they say jump, you say "how high?" or it's forced labor camp. Every. Single. Time.>>3621478
So if you know that a monopoly of power and ownership always ends up in the hands of the state government, why do you still peddle your stupid fucking commie trash here?>>3621494
Nah they just take your shit.
Under communism, there are no small businesses and you can't hire anyone. Only the state can. You can do it illegally and get gulaged if they catch you. Plain and simple. Justice and property rights are in a one party system with a secret police whatever they want it to be at any point. The little bureaucrat who will sign the confiscation of all your stuff has zero incentive to check if it's lawful and especially not if it's an order from above.
Nazis are authoritarian in political axis and yet very capitalist in actions.>Also Lenin was a filthy mass murderer, with 3 million lives taken
"Filthy Lenin" gave 40-hour work week to the world, workers' rights and even equal rights to the women.
Just imagine how much profit was lost because of him though century, no wonder they labeled them with "murderer" and other bullshit.
>>3621501>Under communism, there are no small businesses
Just like under late capitalism.https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/big-business-is-getting-bigger/
Your small business will nor survive the competition with big guys. Even medium business is struggling, right now 2/3 of US businesses are unprofitable, the "free market" capitalism died in 1929, since then is was merging with banks and states, this is what Lenin calls "imperialism", the last stage of capitalism. Between crisises they share profit, during crisis state prints money which is literally taxation of everyone.
Marx teaching is not about what justice, it's about why capitalism stops working, but don't worry there is a way to prolong it's life, all we need is a world war. The ill and elderly will die, the destruction will clear space for more economic growth, it will be fine, no worries.
WW1 was the prime reason USSR was able to form, capitalists were scared shitless and had to give workers what they asked and fought and died for. Now we take it for granted, however since USSR does not exist any more, nobody's going to stand for working class any more.
>>3621511>"Nazis are capitalist"
Nah. Bringing the entire economy under the thumb of one party while giving the illusion of a free market is not my idea of capitalism.
>"we wouldn't have the 40-hour work week, workers' rights and women's rights without this commie mass murderer"
I'd rather "the world" developed those advancements in ethics a few years later and millions of people wouldn't have been genocided.
>>3621514>>since USSR does not exist any more, nobody's going to stand for working class any more.
Don't fucking even pretend like you give a shit about the workers. Most of them hate your gun-grabbing authoritarian globalist pedo-enabling upper-class shitfuck ideology.
WWIII will be fought on American soil.
And who's going to invade US? North Korea backed by commie-reptiloids?
>>3621494>At what point, along this process, do the employees I hired have a claim on the equipment I worked and saved for?
If you want other people to dig stuff for you, you have to give them the means to do it. Providing the means of production is simply the price of getting shit done. This is why under communism it's quite expensive to have a backhoe or an excavator just for yourself and not let anyone else use it for any other need.
>Under this system, how do you climb the ladder of prestige, status, and income?
By being useful, competent, and working harder, you earn respect, gain status, and improve the living standards of your community which includes yourself.
>>3621571>And who's going to invade US?
The US will split to internal political strife and form warring factions backed by Russia, China and the remnants of the EU after Russia stomps all over the eastern bloc unhindered by NATO. At first China and Russia will work together to break down remaining resistance on both continents, then they will battle each other for ultimate dominance.
>>3621572>Mexico drug cartels?
But they earn money by selling drugs to US. If they invade US, whom they going to sell drugs to?>The US will split to internal political strife and form warring factions backed by Russia,
Russia is barely functional raw mineral exporter with aging and declining population> China and the remnants of the EU after Russia stomps all over the eastern bloc unhindered by NATO.
Who the fuck needs those losers? They are burden, not a trophy.>t first China and Russia will work together to break down remaining resistance on both continents, then they will battle each other for ultimate dominance.
Won't happen. Struggling with China is futile. Capitalist Russia is way more likely to just sit there and grab any benefit from US-China confrontation.
>>3621607>Russia is barely functional raw mineral exporter with aging and declining population
And? The way Russia always works, they invade the neighboring countries and use their infrastructure to rapidly rebuild their economy and military through sheer exploitation. The EU is a powerless bunch of bureaucrats that won't actually do anything to Russia because Germany is completely addicted to Russian oil and gas, which means the second the US dismantles and NATO stops being a thing, Russia will simply walk over Poland, Ukraine, Baltics etc. one by one and regain the old Soviet territory.
The EU will try to partner up with whichever side of the US promises to fight back Russia, at which point Russia will team up with the opposing side. At this point China is looking at supporting either strong Russia or weak and disorganized US-EU coalition. They will first pick the weaker enemy, let Russia extend its reach and spread itself thin fighting wars on two continents, and then attack Russia on a third front in Siberia. This will cut Russian supply lines to North America and China will arise as the "savior of the world".
[Part 1 of post, "body is too long" bullshit]>>3621581
>> Under this system, how do you climb the ladder of prestige, status, and income?
> By being useful, competent, and working harder, you earn respect, gain status, and improve the living standards of your community which includes yourself.
If I've learned anything from documentarian Adam Curtis, especially his series titled "The Trap: What Happened To Our Dreams Of Freedom", it's that we've become slaves to the bureaucracy that was meant to serve us. That particular three part documentary was about how quotas and deadlines and bureaucracy are leading to a civilization framework calibrated for meeting the numbers on the outside, but from the inside, looks like something no rational person would design by intent and looks entirely sociopathic in practice. From the opening preamble:
> V.O.: "But if one steps back and looks at what has resulted, it is a very strange kind of freedom. The attempt to liberate people from the dead hand of bureaucracy, has lead to the rise a new, and increasingly controlling system of management, driven by targets and numbers. While governments committed to creating freedom of choice in all areas have actually presided over a rise of inequalities, and a dramatic collapse of social mobilities."
I was listening to HowStuffWorks' "Stuff You Should Know" podcast, and I don't specifically recall how they got off on this topic, but they mentioned how whaling was a continued practice in the Soviet Union well into the 70's, despite treaties, for a product they didn't even have a productive use for anymore, all because of bureaucracy. Factory teams were ceremonially rewarded, actually having medals pinned on their uniforms, for meeting or exceeding quotas, in everything from textile production, to mining yield, to fishing.
[continued in part 2]
[Part 2 of >>3621622
The way the rules were written, any product of marine harvest would count towards this quota, including whaling, even though they didn't have a use for the oil anymore, and threw the meat away. But it was the easiest way to meet quota on paper, so the bureaucratic machine trundled along. One particular civic hero, the soviet equivalent of an environmentalist, was imploring on these labor managers to stop the practice, and I'll never forget this quote.
The protester's argument included a line to the effect of, "Our children will never get to see them if we don't stop, and will never forgive us." The labor organizer replied with the apathy of a carrier man given in, ground down and extruded out by forty years of tirelessly churning, rigid, immalleable iron gear bureaucracy, "Our children aren't the ones who will fire me." There it is. We've got to *take* charge of the system, and not let the system take charge of us.
That example of bureaucratic malfunctioning is why I have a not insignificant amount of incredulity for your suggested framework of "being useful, competent, working harder, earning respect, gaining status, and improve the living standards of your community which includes yourself." That was exactly the recipe that the labor organizer was following, and everyone else in that industry.
"The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy." –Oscar Wilde
>>3621678>Again, those losers connot be exploited
Not as capitalist economies, but under command economy. They have plenty of natural resources and if you're not useful as a factory worker, you can be cannon fodder on the front line. Don't even need to give you a gun - pick it up from the dead body of the last guy.
everyone in the planet is slowly being coaxed into accepting their inevitable extinction, the sleeping countries will go to sleep, the people will be replaced when the time is right, this is the big picture, making you accept it as fate.
Communism works by cooperation and the absence of private property that would enable one to monopolize the means of production. Communism really has no bureaucracy because it ultimately does not have and does not need a state. The cost of building and maintaining the means of production falls on anyone who wishes to consume wealth, which means you have to share them to be able to afford it, but the socially necessary labor to sustain your living standard is much less when you are not sustaining a class of capitalists and aristocrats who confiscate all your surplus to fighting wars and building pew pew space rockets to nowhere.
Communism doesn't work - or isn't communism - when it is forced by a small elite of revolutionaries who treat the people as idiot children (bolshevism and modern social democracy). This is because such people always define themselves as indispensable for the cause and in doing so lay the foundations of a state capitalism which merely displaces the individual capitalists and does not result in the dissolution of the state.
Also, what the "soviet" in Soviet Union means is literally "assembly". It was supposed to be an union of the worker cooperatives that arose spontaneously leading up to the communist revolution.
These collectives took control of the means of production and started working for themselves, but then the Bolsheviks did a switcheroo and created a dictatorship of the proletariat without involving the actual proletariat. They tricked power away from the worker collectives by pretending to build a democratic government for organizing the soviets, but because of how they defined democracy it was simply a means to vote for a new elite autocracy.
The trick was democratic centralism, which means any decision by vote is binding until the action is complete. In a situation of a revolution and a civil war, it is necessary to organize a unified front. If then you vote for a leader, you have to follow that leader, which means they decide when the action is complete and when to give you the power back.
It's going to be an internal conflict and every other nation is going to take advantage of the discord.
China's already bought up a shitton of agricultural land. America is dead, and good riddance.
except the rich people. They have all the safe property on all the safe Islands and will ride out any trouble in their , very safe , Bunkers.
Hurrah for the Rich people.
If this is the proof Capitalism works , then I beg to differ
On a sidenote : When the world turns to crap , how will they spend their Bitcoins or stocks?
In some ways China is not inventive and smart enough : They should import poor americans by the boatload, fill them with education and political propaganda then send them back home to the good ol ´USA and let them undermine the society in a socialistic direction. By the Ballot box and the teachers desk in schools, college and universities.
no, it will be yourself =)
Why advertise it? Just fucking do it!
Avery is "fiddleafox did nothing wrong!" tier cute. It's my waifu now.
The most advanced kind.