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6eb57573 No.3620419

Can anyone explain why Europeans aren't as proud of their country as Americans? I recently travelled through there and i almost never saw the EU flag displayed in public or at homes, in fact most people don't even own one!

6ba5a835 No.3620420

Because the EU is not a country.

05295c31 No.3620421

Why do Americans display their flag everywhere when they only got 2 neigbours, neither of which pose a threat or competition to them?

6ba5a835 No.3620422

More specifically, the EU is

1) A common market area between European countries with unified standards, legislation and money
2) A confederation of sovereign nations
3) A bunch of bureaucrats and old nazis sitting in Brussels trying to remove the con- from the -federation, slowly, so nobody would notice

People only fly the EU flag when they want agricultural subsidies or bailout loans for their failing economies. Otherwise it's completely irrelevant.

b806adf9 No.3620429

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>>3620421
because AMURRICKA!

>>3620420
leading to another question – do citizens in the EU often have or display the flag of their own nation?

058d9797 No.3620453

>do citizens in the EU often have or display the flag of their own nation?
Not at all. One common observation of travelers visiting the states is that there's a huge number of flags flying everywhere. European nations usually only have flags at government buildings or during state celebrations. Outside of that you may see them at ex-pat hangouts like "Irish" pubs or the like, but it's rare to see them just out in the streets.

baeb9d82 No.3620455

>>3620421
Because it's our country. Why wouldn't we display flags? Displaying your countries flag is perfectly natural thing to do.

b806adf9 No.3620457

>>3620419
When talking about flags I like to go back to this TED talk about flag design

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnv5iKB2hl4

When he talks about Chicago's flag he's not kidding – go downtown and you see that flag or elements of if EVERYWHERE.

05295c31 No.3620482

>>3620455
This sense of flag pride is very American, and it can be hard for them to realize that other countries don't do this.

It makes sense to display your flag if there's some need to do so. Like national pride in having survived wars and territory changes - it's a kind of flaunt against those who wanted you off the map. E.g. Estonia is justified in showing off their flag to say "We survived the USSR and wrestled free our independance from them". Or, it also makes sense to display your flag near the borders of other countries to improve the sense of being in another country to tourists (thus displaying it the border city of Niagara Falls US/CAN makes sense).

But in states that where never part of anything but the USA? Who are you flaunting your sovereignty against? The British Empire and the French First Republic?

b7e4f883 No.3620486

>>3620455
>Because it's our country. Why wouldn't we display flags?

Because it's like having a name tag on your shirt while sitting at home. Do you really need a daily reminder of what country you're living in?

b7e4f883 No.3620487

>>3620453
> it's rare to see them just out in the streets.

Not very, but they're mostly displayed by people who prefer bomber jackets and camo pants, and a short hair style.

02490e07 No.3620494

>>3620419

Because the last time we had a Nation that deliberately used flags and Nationalism , it was the Third Reich. Flags and symbols everywhere.

We here in EU now know what nationalism will lead to.
America still has to learn that lesson the hard way. Trump was the beginning of this, not the end.

Nationalism and flagwaving is a cheap and easy way of uniting a deeply split population by keeping anger and hate over social injustice directed outwards.

Thus all the wars and "humanitarian" interventions all over the planet.

But that will only work for so long.

26079a7c No.3620502

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>>3620494
>Nationalism and flagwaving is a cheap and easy way of uniting a deeply split population

Great! Now we can get rid of all the tranny/LGBT/BLM/Antifa/other crap since now we know they are just closet fascists.

Thanks anon!

b2aae70c No.3620509

>>3620419
Because in France it is forbidden for citizens to display the national flag, only officials can (presidential office, town hall, graveyard, …). Don't ask me why.

And the EU is just a huge technocracy to allow non elected people to have empowering well paid useless position for them and their relatives. There's a French documentary that shows how stupid the whole thing is and irrelevant for country specific details some generic laws are passed anyway.

Fuck bureaucracy.

cb48766d No.3620547

>>3620419
We are aware of how deeply the issues of our countries run, unlike burgers who still believe that they're in any position to afford braindead chauvinism. You're proud of what exactly? How you sold out your country to Israel? The pedos in the White House? The autistic hypersensitivity to social equity that's eating your country inside out? The cyberpunk surveillance corporatocracy that you've already become halfway through? Who cares, I'll wave my flag and sing my song and all the bad feefees will go away! The Romans must've felt proud of Rome too in 475AD…

572a3d67 No.3620557

>>3620547

"The Romans must've felt proud of Rome too in 475AD…"

The last Roman emperor had an army of like 25 people. Never forget to feed the military industrial Complex!

The Undoing of the Roman empire and will be the undoing of the American Empire.

05295c31 No.3620567

>>3620557
>>3620547
Remember that the people responsible for undoing the Roman Empire and bring about the dark age were white Germanic tribes (Visigoths, Ostrogoths, Vandals etc.) not Black people, nor Jews, nor whatever other ethnic scapegoat racists wish they could blame.

565c94b9 No.3620575

>>3620494
Honestly don't be bashing a little nationalism cause if you paint a proper picture in theory a good many policies are capable of being properly used in running a country but not individually I mean first and formost people should be willing to fight for their country not on behalf of a government but of the people so a little nationalism goes a long way but that doesnt mean that a country Should ignore the world I mean trade and more is still within reach so as long as you aren't invading countries and doing something at least a bit positive for not only the country but the world as well by not closing itself off like Vatican city or some of those other city states and countried. Not sure which of the northern European countries it is by name but I believe one in particular only allows visitors or tourists to stay for a limited period and won't allow outsiders to become citizens meaning you must have had family at some point in time you can prove was a citizen of that country born and raised.

565c94b9 No.3620577

>>3620575
I forgot to finish post lol

But as I was saying those countries use a form of nationalism and have been at peace with the rest of the planet for eons with history to show for its records of peace for thousands of years I believe norse history would explain the last time they have done anything of extreme note.

01e12a58 No.3620579

>>3620575
>first and formost people should be willing to fight for their country not on behalf of a government but of the people

That's why many EU countries have conscript armies instead of a professional military. At least in the Nordics and in every eastern bloc country neighboring Russia, and Switzerland. The rest hope that NATO will swoop in and save the day if Russia breaks through the eastern bloc again.

bbbe6312 No.3620595

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>>3620579

Nationalism is what keeps a country healthy. Rampant immigration, cheapness of citizenship, degeneracy and social tolerance are signs of a declining society.

>>3620567
>Visigoths, Ostrogoths, Vandals etc

They did not destroy the Roman Empire. The Empire destroyed itself from within by liberal poisoning long before the invasions. The barbarians simply pulled the life-support plug.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSQT1Sf39uU


Make no mistake. We are entering a dystopian dark age that will last centuries.

1fe9005d No.3620596

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>>3620577
"
But as I was saying those countries use a form of nationalism and have been at peace with the rest of the planet for eons with history to show for its records of peace for thousands of years I believe norse history would explain the last time they have done anything of extreme note."

Sorry to shatter your propaganda-filled illusions, but well into the 19th Century, it was Sweden/Norway that dominated the international slave trade. You know all those "triangle-trade" stories invented to make it look like the Northern U.S. and Britain were making big profits from slavery? They're extreme exagerations to say the least. The big players were the Scandinavians.

Even at its height, the U.S. was a small fraction. It also stopped DECADES before others did. Shit, the French and Brazilians owned slaves legally into the 1890s. And of course, the Germans and Japanese brought back slavery in a BIG way in the 1940s.

1b936cbc No.3620615

>>3620419
Because EUSSR is a very costly building full of unelected commissars who knows better and impose their (= the lobyist)'s will on populations.

Also, even if you'd consider the national flag, it's only acceptable to display it at your house during sport world cups or something ; outside these event people will label you as some sort of nazi.

Being proud of your country is far-right, go figure, and the result is that the idea of "the country" doesn't gather people anymore.
Nature abors vaccuum though, and now we find ourselves fractured in little islands, there's the nationalists, there's the progressive, the pro-immigration, the anti-imigration, the christians, the muslims, and it will eventually lead to internal conflicts and maybe civil wars because all these group dislike each others and no there is no longer a speck of national identity to glue them back together.

69976803 No.3620662

>>3620596
>The big players were the Scandinavians.

Swedes invented scientific racism that the Nazis later adopted, to excuse and explain away their own treatment of other peoples.

The first national institute for racial biology and eugenics in the world was in Sweden. The first modern taxonomic system of plants and animals made by Carl Linnaeus also included the taxonomy of man, where the "Africanus" race was defined as "crafty, sly, lazy, cunning, lustful, careless".

69976803 No.3620664

>>3620615
Also as a bit of trivia, the Swedish eugenics project used forced sterilization to get rid of "mental defects" and alcoholism. It was in operation from 1934 until 1958 when it was quietly shut down and the research projects rebranded as genetics research at various other institutes and universities.

05295c31 No.3620665

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>>3620664
There's nothing wrong with forced sterilization and I'm glad it's finally become socially acceptable after rebranding it as transgenderism.

69976803 No.3620700

>>3620665
There were three cases for sterilization:
- women suffering from chronic illnesses
- mental or physical disabilities, hereditary diseases
- "Social indication" like having an "anti-social lifestyle" or being "feebleminded"

Basically, if you were any sort of social radical or had unusual fetishes, you could be branded insane and locked up, and released only on condition of sterilization.

2902eea4 No.3620712

>>3620700


Alan Turing

47fe85c7 No.3620714

>>Basically, if you were any sort of social radical or had unusual fetishes, you could be branded insane and locked up, and released only on condition of sterilization.

THAT'S EVERYBODY ON THIS ENTIRE FUCKING SITE.

3df866e9 No.3620716

>>3620714

Thanks for blowing our cover asshole!

I hope the bus with the white painted windows comes for you first!

46675674 No.3620803

>>3620429
we do, many are doing it, but what happens is leftard mayors or municipalities ask them to be removed if it constitutes a "racial hatred provocation" and on administrations, it is just illegal to have like, just the french flag alone, it must be accompanied with the EU flag (a directive under Hollande)

13a01b13 No.3620879

I don't know… maybe because Europe is not a country, but a fucking continent? And maybe because the flag is a flag of Europen Union which is a useless institution that has nothing to do with Europe?

681fbfa4 No.3620892

>>3620879


I think I found the one person here with a whole clue.

87310b6d No.3620908

The reason there are no European furries is because Europeans are smarter, funnier and more attractive, so they don't need it.

e9058266 No.3620920

>>3620908
is this a bot?

985e54ff No.3621045

>>3620714
>
THAT'S EVERYBODY ON THIS ENTIRE FUCKING SITE.

No worries, we don't need sterilisation for obvious reasons.

159f9d90 No.3621094

Flags are a symbol for national identification. They are for governments and militaries to use, and for citizens to use to identify themselves when at sea. It's not a status symbol, nor a lawn decoration. Not everyone shows pride by waving flags around, and screaming 'freedom' and expletives at others. We keep our cities tidy, and our homes neat. We take care of each other, and not everyone, but in general we take care of one another, kin or stranger. We show pride through food and drink, making life enjoyable, and working to make our towns, cities, and country a place where we want to live.



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