being process into a stem cell chances are if you are being developed in a cow, pig, goat etc. low tier animals chances are you will be killed or abuse by a human 90 percent chance. the other 10 percent chance is that a human would treat you kind.
I am aware that the stem cells in my central cortex is still functional it will fail at some point, life is suffering how we live in this cruel world life is short death takes time to repair into another organism.
That wraps up the summary of Death and Reincarnation Life isn't fair and Death takes time to rebuild an organism a whole. our existence is based on a simulation! Human laws don't apply to the universe it's the other way around.
Very deep and nihilistic. Liked and retweeted.
Too bad all DNA is digested into simple nucleotides, proteins split into aminoacids, so no data is preserved.
If you mouth-fuck a pregnant bitch, she'll digest your semen and a part of you may be reborn as a puppy, while you're still alive.
>>3775> Protiens = > Soul
Prions (Spongiform encephalopathy)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXcLb4oCYfg
Prions are eating my soul in my brain.
manifolded Proteins are parasites.
countries like south korea and japan should invest in stem cell prion flush out tech. where nano bots repair aging brain vessels that could rupture and cause stroke.
What about the electrons that make up the soul? What becomes of those?
The short answer is a resounding YES.
Electrons (and other particles) can be destroyed by a process known as pair annihilation. A positron is the opposite of the electron, it has positive charge and identical rest mass. If a positron and an electron unite, they annihilate each other and release energy in the form of radiant energy, e.g. photons. If the electron and positron were initially at rest, or moving towards each other at the same velocity, two photons are usually produced moving in opposite directions. In some rare cases, three photons may be produced. One photon is not possible because momentum must be conserved. In any case, the total energy released is the sum of the initial rest energy. Electrons and positrons have rest energy of 0.511 million electron-volts (MeV), so the total energy is 1.022 MeV. In the two photon case, each photon will have energy of 0.511 MeV which corresponds to a wavelength of 0.0024 nano-meters (nm). This range of wavelengths falls in the regime of X-rays. If the electron and positron have an initial velocity, it will contribute to the total energy and yield photons with higher energies and shorter wavelengths.
The opposite of pair annihilation, called pair production is also possible. Much of the theory and experimental data relating to this subject may be found in any quantum mechanics text.
They decay and become background radiation and head into the void of empty space of dark matter the atoms become ghost particles returning into the big bang.
Death is nothing to fear… it is just darkness and not feeling, hearing, seeing, smelling, and tasting it.
What I don't understand is why I was born in this body, typing these words on this computer in this time and place. There must be some reason why I see life through this perspective and circumstances.
I wonder if science can quantify it.
Consciousness is a form of adaptation, it helps you avoid danger, there's not much else to it.
Imagine being a baby kangaroo , your mother will feed you as long as she have food, if she'll ran out of it, for example because of drought, she'll abandon you, not a big problem for her because she have a spare embryo, she'll raise a different cub.
Moral of the story: you are replaceable, and unimportant, like we all. Death doesn't matter, someone else will take your place in the Circe of life.
and if luck by chance that a human finds you either the human kills you or raise you. life is stranger than fiction.
Yep. Natural selection. Consciousness, logic, allow to make better choices, foresee events and prepare for them, develop solutions to problems through planning, simulations, prediction, shared knowledge, not centuries of trial and error.
That results in higher survival rates, opens up new terrains for settling, replaces gathering or hunting for food with mass production and distribution.
By sheer amount of biomass, humans are a dominant species surpassed only by species grown as food for humans.
Lack of certain adaptations simply means getting displaced by a species that has these adaptations. No great deep meaning behind that.
our ultimate goal should be to break the cycle, irradiate the planet to such a degree that no life can survive
i wonder if i get to witness nuclear extinction in my lifetime, probably not
life, um, always finds a way.
Unironically, all nihilists are this.
that doesn't really answer my question.
my question (after some googling) is the Vertiginous question
There's an amusing line of reasoning concluding that we almost certainly exist inside a computer simulation. It goes something like this: Computer capability rapidly increases and probably will far into the future. Eventually it will be able to run simulations of a universe from the big bang on, complete with planets evolving life.
Now, the real universe is just plain big. No matter how unlikely advanced civilizations are, there will be a large number of them running simulations of their own.
A large number of simulated universes but only one real one, so it is far more likely that we are in one of the simulated ones.
Behold! The perfect woman!
The Source Of All Things has always existed. Your reality has not. From infancy through early childhood, you developed a consciousness, began to form memories, and your sense of self started to manifest and develop. Everything you have experienced from that point onward is your reality. All the experiences you have ever had, all your thoughts, all your actions, and how you interact with everything you experience, this is your reality.
So what happens when you die? Simple: your reality ceases to exist. There will never be another one like it. That dimension of the universe just poof, there one moment, and gone the next. But the Source from whence you came is timeless, and will always exist. Its creation expands outward ceaselessly. The universe, and creation, continues infinitely, even without your consciousness being around to experience it.
Your reality is a such a microscopic speck in time as we know it. Your planet has been around far longer than our species, but even your Earth is so fresh in the timeline of all existence, it is impossible to fully comprehend how incredibly brief the age of all organic life here on this planet will be in the ultimate scope of time itself. Its reign will be less than a flash fire in a frying pan, a nanosecond, a single cycle of a CPU.
And here you are. A human being, 2020 years after humanity's common era, reading an anonymous posting on a global communication network, the likes of which couldn't be fathomed a century ago. This is your time. This is your moment. How will you choose to exist in your reality? How will you shape your existence, knowing that this is your one opportunity to experience reality? Will you choose to fight for your happiness, or will you roll over idly and fritter your existence away until it ceases to be?
The choice is yours.
This some Schitzophrenia-level failed-the-fuck-out-of-middle-school-biology shit right here.
Americans believe that anyone can be successful if they work hard and smart enough.
Great diversity of nationalities, languages, races and religions. And cuisines too, yes.
A lot of opportunities for entrepreneurs and artistic types.
Great diversity of nature - every possible terrain exists here, be it forests, deserts, fields, mountains, beaches, prairies, etc.
People are usually polite and nice and like to make conversations.
Pretty high standard of living compared to most countries in the world.
Discrimination is not allowed (although it quietly exists).
Relatively easy to find a job to support yourself if times get too hard.
Prices of real estate are relatively low compared to earnings.
Most people here don’t smoke and have low tolerance of public consumption of alcohol and drugs (although a lot of people consume drugs and alcohol).
Almost all cities have terrible unreliable public transportation.
Healthcare will bankrupt you.
If healthcare doesn’t bankrupt you, surely education will.
American downtowns are full of homeless, drug addicts, etc and the police is doing nothing about it.
Employees are often treated as slaves, especially in service industry. I once had to work 7 days a week. Many stores and restaurants are always open and the staff slaves non-stop.
A lot of Americans (probably most) are barely literate and can’t even perform simple math. I’m not even going to mention knowledge of history, geography, sciences, etc.
While people seem friendly, they are unlikely to become real friends with you. If you are not viewed as “cool” (I.e. superficial air-head), you will be socially isolated.
If you are a man, it’s difficult to find love if you are not “cool”, extremely good-looking, same as everybody else, have many friends, etc. Women have it hard too, there are a lot of crazies.
Cities look soulless - shopping malls, ugly office buildings, most suburban homes and apartment buildings look like sheds and barns. Not a pretty sight for most part.
Political system - only two parties, president is not elected directly, you need permits for everything.
Justice system - very harsh, you can get locked up for many years for minor violations and your life will be destroyed when you get out of jail (you can’t get a job, can’t rent an apartment, etc). At the same time, cities are full of gang bangers and drug dealers.
Ruining chud imageboard experience since 2009
Just by existing and posting
poetically put "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"
in plain language : Shithole
I have chosen to fritter time away-
Because life sucks,. our vote does not matter, all news is horrible and our politicians from ALL parties are cast in the vilest deepest pits in HELL.
It's Jesus! Say hello, Jesus!
>carry your genes
But dna gets destroyed in stomaches…
This thread is this meme.
Soul is a misunderstanding of the last breath of hot air leaving a dying person's lungs, because while people of the ancient past knew nothing about anatomy, they knew that you die if you can't breathe.
Souls do not exist. Your consciousness is the process of your brain working as intended, one synapse at a time. That's where your memories, your personality, your instincts, your everything is stored.
What kills an animal or a human isn't really the heart or breathing or brain activity stopping. You can start a heart or breathing, sometimes even a brain again. It's the lack of oxygen causing brain damage. Brain damage starts killing brain cells at about one minute of no oxygen. People can still be brought back up to 5 minutes of no oxygen in. That's the blurry death border. That's when you die. More than that and you're a vegetable, basically not even sentient and there's no point trying. And more than 10 minutes and the wiring is so damaged it can't even maintain bodily functions.
While proteins seem to be the mechanism that encode data in brain cells, these molecules are meaningless outside the brain wiring structure. If something else eats you, it uses your atoms for its own purposes. There's no "you" in there.
You won't be reborn as anything. EVER. This is your one life, and that's it.
And no, you won't see any "darkness" after death. You won't see or know anything. There's not going to be a "you". Just like there wasn't a you before you were conceived.
If you want to live more, the only possible solution is to use technology to extend your lifespan. There's no other option. Modern medicine can be said to do that already, probably none of us here would live past 50 without it.
There's a natural lifespan limit due to the telomeres at the ends of the chromosomes. They are an area that protect the DNA from damage during the repeated replication process. DNA damage = cancer risk. Finding ways to decrease cellular aging by manipulating human DNA and better ways of treating cancers (ideally removing troublesome cells on basis of cell division speed and/or DNA damage) is important.
There may also be the option of cybernetic implants and bodies. The brain has fortunately very long-lived cells. It's a double-edged sword though, as very limited cell replication hinders the ability to heal damage.
How is any of this in any sense political?
It's perfectly possible to be centrist or right wing and grounded in reality when it comes to understanding human consciousness and death.
Right-wingers don't have a monopoly on believing in superstitious nonsense. The left-wingers do it too, except they are going into hippie territory rather than western monotheist territory (both equally cancer).
Ok, I was being flippant, sorry.
We have agreed on stuff before. But you're such a shitlib.
Indeed they are.
But at least I don't have a commitment to any political side. My opinions vary on a issue by issue basis. I use my common sense and I can admit when the left is on to something (social issues, secularity, science) but also when the right is on to something (guns, crime, borders).
You seem to be completely locked in to your political affiliation and I haven't seen you dare go against your side.
Momentarily I'm affiliated with the right wing, but I'll call them out for talking shit as often as I feel I need to. Why don't you do that also?
By the way, what do you think of Atheism is Unstoppable aka Devon Tracey?https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg6MuFVugHwWCp1YDQDAy1w/videos
He's a funny and entertaining anti-gun (double disavow) Hillary voter (disavow) who dares to say things that the left doesn't want to hear.
I'm just weary of political engagement in general. /furi/ is shit for politics and you all call people on the left on their bullshit anyway (including myself here). The last thing I want to do is lose irl friends over political disagreements, so I keep my yap shut most of the time about politics. I don't keep up on it because I don't -want- to do so.
Life is enough of a rollercoaster. Why burn bridges unnessicarily over petty, vindictive shit? My views change the more I learn. That's how things should be.>>3579736
I dunno who that is, but I've seen Louder with Crowder.
To be frank, I'm closer to the center than you may think. I just like to spazz out (duh). Example: I am leaning more towards pro-life than otherwise. A left pro-lifer? What a weird concept. Thats me though.
I know that feeling, both my parents are full Orange Man Bad mode. Now I only see them once a week or so, so we eventually agreed to not talk about politics. My other two IRL friends don't give all that much of a shit about politics.
I don't really remember burning a bridge with anyone on my end, I'm willing to talk with anyone about anything, and even if an argument gets heated to not mind at the end of the day.
But I think people who would burn a bridge with me over my opinions are not real friends and I don't need them in my life anyway.
AiU is at least entertaining if nothing else. His persona does have a MASSIVE ego, almost to a comical degree so brace for that.
Crowder is okayish, but I'm not a conservative so I have no particular fondness for him.
The most left wing people I could endorse would be Aron Ra (crypto-SJW, has full blown progressives as guests regularily but he's right about evolution) and Thunderf00t (full trump derangement syndrome and brexit derangement syndrome but he does a flawless job at debunking pseudoscience and product scams). And the most right-wing people I could endorse and stand by would be J. F. Gariepy (libertarian-ish neuroscientist) and Jared Taylor (white advocate). Anything more right that and I'd have to disavow. All of these (probably including Jared) would be atheists too.
And my favorite content creator of all time has consistently been Sargon of Akkad for over half a decade now.
>A left pro-lifer? What a weird concept.
I'm a full pro-choice right-winger lmao.>>3579739
There's no "unknown". You die and then you're dead, that's it. A very "known" condition.
The problem is that humans have a psychological problem in accepting that their self will be erased.
I'm kind of the opposite, I support trump, not because I think hes a good man, but because I think he'd be the best sta doing president.
My parents are full on #blacklivesmatter, #defundpolice, #banprisons. We dont get along…
They just cant stop talking politics and will constantly bring it up. Since I'm the only republican no matter how mild I put things they just laugh at me, or mock me, in unison.
Sounds the same tho.
I don't think Trump's a _bad_ man, but he's clueless, a professional bullshitter, bad public speaker and he looks ridiculous. He's a walking reaction image.
But his heart is in the right place and he gets the job done okay given the circumstances. Plus his competition is either absolutely atrocious (gangster Hillary, senile Biden, commie Bernie) or good on paper but thrown under the bus by the party in practice (Tulsi, Yang etc.). So Trump 2020! The only sane option, really.
Yeah, same with my parents, and debating with them is like trying to convince a schizo that his delusions are not real. They just get mad, change the topic, do personal attacks or dig deeper in rationalizations and excuses.
I personally think his look and speaking plays into his bullshitting. Which is why I think hes the best presidential option we have available.
I really do think he has the american at first in his heart, but I dont deny he's a dirty businessman. Let's be honest though, what better traits do you need to really raise a country. With all he's done with the media and almost half the country against him, it's actually pretty impressive.
That and Biden would be the worst thing possible in this climate, talk about throwing gasoline on a democrat fire…
Biden is a puppet. Watching him talk without a prompter is terrifying.
Yeah, you probably do need to be that to run shit properly.
Also while I don't like billionaires, him being filthy rich kinda makes him hard to bribe. I mean what are they gonna bribe him? His 11th private jet? His 15th luxury boat??
It's insane how much his opponents hate him. You'd think they know how to take the L, get their shit together and do better next time. Instead non stop temper tantrums and conspiracy theories.>>3579766
If the democrats had any sense, they'd put Tulsi Gabbard forward. It would be a GUARANTEED VICTORY.
The partisan left would vote for her. They'd vote for anything with a blue sticker on it.
Some progressives would bite the bullet and vote anyway.
The swing voters would vote for her cause she's not fucking insane and actually talks common sense most of the time.
Even some republicans could vote for her cause she's a patriot and a veteran who got deployed.
But no, we can't have that. They'd rather lose than compromise on being super ultra far left.
Oh and you'd think the progressives would love a wamen of color, but they hate her like the plague. Guess she's not woman and not colored enough.
>>3579779>>As our technology advances we could replicate the human afterlife in a computer.
That doesn't make sense.
Simulating a dead person in a computer does nothing at all for the real life human that actually died.
And as far as transitioning to an all-digital mind… I dunno, don't bet on it. Nothing makes it impossible on paper, but it's definitely a level of technology we'd be fucking LUCKY to reach. And it's further away in the future than just life extension or cyborg bodies.
In my opinion it should be possible to slowly replace parts of the brain with machine counterparts that do the same function, but consciousness and the feeling of a self is like a flame that needs to be kept on, even if the material that's feeding it changes. The first person who does it will probably have to essentially have a double brain, the real one, a machine one and a complex interface between those two that can act as a switch. And then have timed switching back and forth between parts of the brain and their machine equivalents and document how their behavior and perception of self changes during these switching cycles.
It's necessary to do, so you don't accidentally replace yourself with a copy. And different areas carry different risk levels. For example I imagine switching out your visual cortex carries a low risk. However the same thing can't be said about a frontal lobe. Also maybe there's a certain order to do it in. And maybe some parts are too finicky to touch and will have to remain on life support (at least until the technology advances).
But I don't think any of us here will get to see this during our lifetimes, so, focs on life extension and improving medicine for now.
There was an Asimov story way back when about a genius guy slowly replacing himself with machines. The whole idea was where does the man die and the machine live.
Golden era scifi is the best.
Back on topic though. The Dems kinda backed themselves into a corner… I dont think they could possibly find a runner that could be radically left enough to appease their…
Does the left even have a platform they appeal to other than outright rage and fear?
>>3579772>Tulsi Gabbard…would be a GUARANTEED VICTORY.
quit trying to make comrade gabbard a thing
*Revive bob's brain*
Bob's brain: Where am I?
Neuron engineer: You are in a jar!
Bob's brain: If I can see you and cant feel my body and hear you talk in this vat system…
*Bob starts screaming out a text*
I don't know.
We fear death so much we invented the concept of soul. Something that will exist after our demise.
Which is bullshit, we're just very complex bags of water.
Ok thanks for the clarification now I know the secret of life
Can you prove it to me? I don't know how to prove this.
Those cats were breed through out 100 generations with longer paw thumbs.
similar to breeding super muscle cows.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW54_vM9SF0
this guy explains how evolution works.
only he talks about aliens in another world like the game spore.
I died once of insanguination, bleeding out internally. It would have been easier to just die. It was a choice between hospital or going to sleep and hoping for the best. Honestly it wasnt worse than food poisoning. Death is scary but not all that horrible.
>>3584499>Can you prove it to me? I don't know how to prove this.
It requires a change in perspective to understand correctly.
1. Nobody is truly original. Everyone is born of the circumstances and causes leading up to that particular person as a necessary consequence of how the world is. This is a purely material fact of existence.
2. Who "you" really are is the flow of these causes and conditions from one living being to the next. All your actions propagate the pattern on towards your next emergence.
Technically, while it takes some time for these causes and conditions to converge into another you, the fragments and partials exist in insects, trees, rocks, clouds in the sky… etc. and this is the transmission of your "soul" between bodies. Specific memories of your past life are forgotten, but none of your history is lost, and if you see clearly into these causes and conditions then you can remember your past lives and identify yourself.
Then do we have some kind of quantum signature? Could you augment it with a mark? A mark you could find in your next life and scan with a device? Why is this not solved?
The technicalities don't matter to me so much as the question forever was do we come back to _this_ world or another universe. It would change humanity to prove this beyond doubt; any rational person would have to accept they need to take care of the world or they're creating their own hell.
The whole point of quantum computing is this, that you are able to sustain a quantum signature without there being a direct source for that inflow you have essentially cut off any access or (active state) for any information or "data" to be retained.
Nothing is translated unless there is a feed directing the information from point a to point b. Even if it is there it is in a locked state.
>>3584613>Could you augment it with a mark?
No, because that would be interfering with the pattern and this would lead to different consequences.
Any time someone recognizes the full pattern, it ends. That in some religions is called "enlightenment". The chain stops there.
>>3584613> do we come back to _this_ world or another universe
Those two are the same thing. If there's a flow of interaction between the "two", they are a one whole and there is no other universe. It's just this universe. If there is no flow of interaction between them, then nothing can cross, and looking from either side the other won't even exist.
This doesn't really have anything to do with quantum mechanics. The same point would apply regardless as long as we maintain that information and energy are conserved.
If nothing is ever lost, then by sheer probability alone you will re-constitute somehow, somewhere, exactly the same as you are today - and so would everything else.
Probably have to disagree here on the basis that quantum integration or connections do not retain same state due to any change from the bridging of quantum states.
The idea from quantum computing is that it shields this effect from absoluting destroying any information that is not retained, for instance in corrupted data, there is data loss.
An active connection of quantum states causes corruption due to the changing of states.
Energy can be conserved but technically the information is corrupted or lost due to the change of states. In case anyone would fantasize over this, quantum computing is required to conserve information through the direct translation of quantum fields etc.
The energy may or may not be conserved but the data is definitely changed from the imprinting of their observed states. Whether that is key is a different case. The quantum state is then supported by the computer because the computer can virtualize the "patterns or informations" using quantum teleporting it can even maintain the state entirely.
You're overthinking it.
This really has nothing to do with quantum mechanics. It's irrelevant.
Basically, whatever the mechanism by which the universe works, it goes through some permutation of states.
If the universe is "once through", then we're most likely to find ourselves at the end of it. It's already completed its course and stopped - but this is not where we are because we're finding the universe is very much alive and working. This is only likely if the universe is always doing something. If it is repeating, then whether it repeats by a specific pattern or by complete chance, or any variation in between, it will always return back to the same point over and over.
This higher principle is agnostic of the precise mechanism by which it happens. It must be true regardless, because even an infinite universe that repeats will return to the same point. As this is true for the whole universe, it's likewise true for any limited sub-section of the universe that can only contain a limited set of possibilities. Some such sets never repeat within the span of the universe, while others do multiple times, and you're more likely to find yourself to be one of the multitude of repeating patterns than the few that don't repeat. Regardless, your pattern will repeat - it's just a matter of how long it takes.
This all is because existence is not a being, it's a a doing.
Consider, words in a book aren't doing anything. The characters do not experience things - only the reader who is actively processing the information is recreating the text as a happening in their imagination. Plain information stuck in time is not experience - it's the unfolding of information that we experience as the now. The contents of reality must be in eternal change from past to the present, or nothing can be experienced at all. Things must change.
If the universe is non-repeating, it must be all contained within the same instant compared to the infinity of time. It doesn't really happen at all, it just is, and without any time passing from one state to another, no experience is possible. This is why it's not a plausible reality - nobody and nothing can experience it.
I don't want to get into how it has something or not to do with quantum mechanics, the issue is there is a formula whether or not you want to design a machine to operate that formula is relevant.
When you put many particles together they form chemical connections with each other, particle decay and half lifes are paramount in making split second decisions with these measurements.
Usually there is an understand that a chemical will react given a certain amount of conditioning but when you have particles that are basically rewritten to react differently, you can have super unpredictable results.
Like when they finally put two higgs bosons together and blow up the universe sort of results. A quantum computer would be able to simulate that and technically keep that under control through simulations until is normalizes. The amount of read out would be first of all, phenomenal and so fast paced alot of information would be overlooked. Having the right machine to choreograph that is going to take a little more than a standard market based Pc.
They don't make Quantum Pc's for public use and for the most part it is still fantasy, unfortunately. But its obvious that technology will be able to replicate that scenario and people will be playing god.
You're not making any point there, just spouting irrelevant trivia.
You're a mother fucker shut up.
Meds. Take them.
Frederik Pohl, "Gateway".
He was WAY ahead of you. And me.
i don't understand why it's so difficult for people to understand or accept that once you die you simply stop existing.
uploading your "soul" to a computer will never happen either, it might be a reasonably good emulation of how your brain worked but it won't be you. You are stuck inside your brain until it dies and then you're gone forever.
i know it's depressing but it's the truth.
When I die send me to a butcher and serve me to rich people at a charity dinner.
You know people would pay good money to have the opportunity to try human meat just to say they have.
Are you serious? Proteins being recycled in the animal kingdom is in no way reincarnation.
I eat a lot of animal protein all the time. Doesn't mean those dead animals get to be conscious inside of me or take over my consciousness.
This is stupid. You don't get reincarnated. Ever. Period. Your consciousness is the web of synapses. Once that's decayed, you're done forever. Make an atom-by-atom copy and you're still done forever. It needs to also have continuity in place. That's why uploading yourself into a computer won't work either.
Although there's a small chance that replacing the brain piece by piece slowly may
work. It is physically possible, there doesn't seem to be one specific cluster of neurons that's the "you", and continuity is borderline preserved (whether it is or isn't will decide if the procedure kills you and replaces you with a copy, but the solution to that is have the connection rewiring be reversible, which means bits of brain will be on life support machinery). But such tech is probably hundreds of years into the future, if it will ever be made.
I know I'm being kinda contrary, but it's a mix of the extreme terror of the release of death, or just closing your eyes
>Are you serious? Proteins being recycled in the animal kingdom is in no way reincarnation.
Neurons: We exist, together we create a conscious at birth.
>I eat a lot of animal protein all the time. Doesn't mean those dead animals get to be conscious inside of me or take over my consciousness.
True. nature is far complex confusing and random let me explain. pieces of proteins will be dead chunks it won't take over your body. The proteins just be digested and possessed
If you are a male, these proteins will travel into your sperm inside your balls. if you are a female, it will grow as a human baby cell.
>This is stupid. You don't get reincarnated. Ever. Period. There is some truth. after researching in biology and cells it's called cell reconstruction. after death You don't remember a thing because you don't feel anything hear anything, it's a blank state. Cell reconstruction will take months until you are born at some point in a random animal or a human this is a cycle.
>Your consciousness is the web of synapses. Once that's decayed, you're done forever.
Indeed, it's going to take an long time till your atoms reconstruct into cells and into another animal to grow and give birth to your existance.
>Make an atom-by-atom copy and you're still done forever.
Atoms are random and humanity has no control over it.
>It needs to also have continuity in place.
>That's why uploading yourself into a computer won't work either.
I have the same thought and I agree.
>Although there's a small chance that replacing the brain piece by piece slowly may work.
Sort of… but what about stem cell re fertilization?
It is physically possible, there doesn't seem to be one specific cluster of neurons that's the "you"
It's all in my and pain is just a sensory.
>and continuity is borderline preserved (whether it is or isn't will decide if the procedure kills you and replaces you with a copy, but the solution to that is have the connection rewiring be reversible, which means bits of brain will be on life support machinery). But such tech is probably hundreds of years into the future, if it will ever be made.
Great speculation. I still know little about the afterlife when we are recycled by these microbes.
It got me wondering that I cross some grim reaper's world.
I cut off the circulation of my arm as an experiment for a minute. To feel what death is like. it was cold and numb.
There is one problem, the brain in the jar has no ears, heart that pumps out blood to circulate blood, lungs that filters the carbon dioxide from the blood, and eyes that could see visual. That means all it could feel is flashing lights within itself.
>>3587680>>pieces of proteins will be dead chunks it won't take over your body. The proteins just be digested and possessed>>If you are a male, these proteins will travel into your sperm inside your balls. if you are a female, it will grow as a human baby cell.
This isn't reincarnation. There's no memory data transfer.
Other creatures being made out of proteins that were once in you isn't reincarnation.
>>Indeed, it's going to take an long time till your atoms reconstruct into cells and into another animal to grow and give birth to your existance.
That's not your existence. You are
your brain. Whatever that is, it's not you.
>>what about stem cell re fertilization?
What do you mean? Cloning? Still not you.
>>I still know little about the afterlife
There's no afterlife. Other creatures' being fed by what was once you isn't you living on. It's not.
>>I cut off the circulation of my arm as an experiment for a minute. To feel what death is like. it was cold and numb.
Death isn't cold or numb. It's not like a sleep without dreams either. It's just not existing. Your mind is not there anymore to reflect on or perceive not existing.
Is that from Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey?
I got that DVD free with a pizza years ago.
Soul, heaven, hell, all bullshit speculations with no factual basis. Do brain lobes have individual souls? What about neurons? When you lose a part of your brain due to lobotomy or dementia, does that part go to heaven? How many parts of your brain do you need to lose before "you" as an individual go to heaven?
But not all is lost. We don't even understand what consciousness is, but one thing we know about it as a fact - someway, somehow, your consciousness was already conceived at least once. There is precedence that consciousness can be created out of lifeless molecules, and you are living proof of that. Who says that within a couple trillions of years, the stars can't align in the exact same way again, and recreate the exact same consciousness that you possess today?
Here, watch this. May explain some things to you.
nah its not math. >.> science maybe but raw math is a human idea in the way of our understanding of whats in front of us is based off prime examples of what we beleive it is. To some you might say it is very concrete example of reality while in other times it is not so much. The reality is versed in an adaptive representation of a portion of what something is, and the ability to identify it through the data that is informed by observable frequency. The matter it is made of is broken into a meta state of frequency and atomic weight, giving it chemical property. But it is derived from a meta state of a programmable database on higher levels of energy. The energy is basically God.
The world is for the material hemisphere of existence. There are more dimensions than percievable via primitive eyes. Vision itself is not limited via optical sensory and some people are even psychic among other gifts included having pragmatism and future-viewing capability. That is because existence operates on a frequency and some people are born into high concentration of 'energy'. When death occurs there is a release from the dimensional binds, so that sovereign energies are channeled via a 'once' only pathway.
Reincarnation may happen because of that where a dimensional path redirects the Soul to its proper frequency. That life is renewed or reconstructed to the personal ability of that soul so those with great energy may even reach a state of Godliness through reincarnation.
In the usage of that energy the remediation for that death occurs and changes the outcome of the soul, on higher levels cheating death could involve being imprisoned as a crystal or other geometric waveform so that is why people sometimes notice Oobe Experiences with strange objects or people. It is because they are resident to that level of energy. But being a immortal crystal person with free domain is what I would call the objective of reincarnation.
>>3587674>This is stupid. You don't get reincarnated. Ever. Period. Your consciousness is the web of synapses. Once that's decayed, you're done forever. Make an atom-by-atom copy and you're still done forever. It needs to also have continuity in place. That's why uploading yourself into a computer won't work either.
And where did this continuity come from in the first place?
it grew from a couple cells donated from your mother including a bunch of dna instructing those cells what to do, and once the brain has grown large enough a consciousness starts to form inside the complex signalling between cells. Part of your personality comes from nature, the mix of cells inside your body that is determined by dna, the food available and the evironment you grew up in. Another larger part of your personality is determined by years of sensing the world and learning about things.
it's neat that you can see the same thing start to happen in artificial computer brains, i wonder how many more years it will be before you have to start questioning if shutting down or resetting a neural network counts as murder
If it already grew once, why couldn't it grow again?
it wouldn't be you in any meaningful way, it would have a whole different set of memories and experiences
but if it was possible to make a perfect snapshot copy of you that retains every detail of every memory and has the exact same thought patterns, would they both be you? and would it be immoral to destroy a redundant copy of a person?
You would essentially be replaced by a clone that would swap places with you and you would be its clone and your relationship with it is symbiotic. So killing yourself you would regress in your reincarnation and do a precarnation.
Basically you would become Voldemort with horcrux clones.
well holy shit, thankfully we have parent that don't raised us like this kid.
We are too late sustain earth and too early to explore space.
Planet Earth is unforgiving.
Being born in a political stable, rich, and secured country. you will live longer.
Being born in a political authoritarian, poor, and outlawed country. you will live short.
Every animal we eat and fuck doesn't matter. Every cult we join and destroy doesn't matter.
Every wars from country destroyed or created doesn't matter. It is all part of the human experience until death. rinse and repeat cremate your dead body thousands of years past you rebirth as a human again but if it is advance or primitive, good or bad, It's like the sims in a video game.
Watching every nation with problems and solutions stealing all the wealth in parties. A solar wave or an asteroid would destroy humanity within 4 hours. Humanity's life will existing until it wipes itself to extinction. Social Media Youtube has changed my life in perspective.
Pauli's exclusion principle implies that there can only be one real "you" at one time. So the others are just really well made clones.
Gautama Buddha is a wimp. Reincarnate until you win.
That's how Buddhism works anyways.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa%E1%B9%83s%C4%81ra_(Buddhism)#Realms_of_rebirth
You may accumulate merit until you are re-born in the deva realm, but then you'll be so happy and untroubled that you will have no spiritual progress, and you will become attached to the world of physical pleasures, which leads to regress and a re-birth to one of the hell realms, or to animal realms, and the wheel of samsara makes a full revolution back to the starting point. It doesn't matter which way you turn the wheel, it's possible to fight your way through hell to become a god, but you will do that forever and ever because each of the positions is a slippery slope to the next place.
It's like Nietzsche's eternal recurring: realize that whatever pains or pleasures you have right now, you've had and will have for all eternity because the world is eternally coming back to the same point. All you can do is love it.