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9f70e8e8 No.3415[View All]

No, fear reincarnation, when we die activity of our brains cease and in your brain is a soul organ will be eaten by microbes as months and years pass on these microbes carry your genes or dna and if they are eaten by other organism your molecules become stems cells if its in a random animal chances you will become a prey or predictor would suck I rather be reborn as a human. nature is cruel if you were reborn as a shitty human in a poor country it would suck!
I won't feel anything after death, it would be darkness, and a process of biology and nature taking its course.
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60a1e873 No.3584784

>>3584783
You're a mother fucker shut up.

07c12bf6 No.3584786

>>3584784
Meds. Take them.

18d73ad9 No.3584788

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And we were having such a good time

c7974bcf No.3584806

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xkpRTXQf1s

Having your brain preserved in some sort of formaldehyde would suck your soul will be trapped for eternity! It still screaming with in even in death.

2a0bc32e No.3585672

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After you die does God take your memories into his cloud drive? What's even scarier is that what if in the far future in the year 5000 A.D. - 6000 A.D. scientist will freeze your dead body and upload your brain's memories to a computer cloud drive nothing personal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlTKTTt47WE

27eeaefc No.3585697

>>3585672

Frederik Pohl, "Gateway".

He was WAY ahead of you. And me.

e31a8eb2 No.3585709

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>>3585672
i don't understand why it's so difficult for people to understand or accept that once you die you simply stop existing.

uploading your "soul" to a computer will never happen either, it might be a reasonably good emulation of how your brain worked but it won't be you. You are stuck inside your brain until it dies and then you're gone forever.

i know it's depressing but it's the truth.

de5dbed5 No.3585718

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>>3585709

This one gets it. I don't think its depressing, though. It is just a fact of life. Some people invent things to make themselves feel better, I say let them, so long as they don't use their beliefs to justify violence.

9d197425 No.3587626

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2f996541 No.3587628

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>>3587626
When I die send me to a butcher and serve me to rich people at a charity dinner.

You know people would pay good money to have the opportunity to try human meat just to say they have.

4ebbcfe4 No.3587633

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>>3585672
>What if when you die God takes you into his cloud drive..

If it happens, it won't be God it will be humanity.

https://youtu.be/eeqT3_XxZTI?t=5

9d197425 No.3587667

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>>3587651

>Reincarnated in 30 seconds


Too fast. it would take countless random years for your dead brain to break down into bacteria food.

year 2000, person at 20 something dies, body starts to decompose for microbes to chow down, countless years your proteins in the bacteria lands randomly inside a female human as months pass you are born and dont remember anything. year 8000 you are born from scratch. 20 years later your just doing human stuff. but this timeline is a lot better or worse and you may live longer or short life. all cells tissue and proteins are made of dust and it breaks down and recycled anew.

a4181f0b No.3587674

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>>3587667
Are you serious? Proteins being recycled in the animal kingdom is in no way reincarnation.

I eat a lot of animal protein all the time. Doesn't mean those dead animals get to be conscious inside of me or take over my consciousness.

This is stupid. You don't get reincarnated. Ever. Period. Your consciousness is the web of synapses. Once that's decayed, you're done forever. Make an atom-by-atom copy and you're still done forever. It needs to also have continuity in place. That's why uploading yourself into a computer won't work either.

Although there's a small chance that replacing the brain piece by piece slowly may work. It is physically possible, there doesn't seem to be one specific cluster of neurons that's the "you", and continuity is borderline preserved (whether it is or isn't will decide if the procedure kills you and replaces you with a copy, but the solution to that is have the connection rewiring be reversible, which means bits of brain will be on life support machinery). But such tech is probably hundreds of years into the future, if it will ever be made.

10b70a25 No.3587677

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As a guy who's died, scary, but not that bad. It's scary, and you definitely dont want it. But end of the day the whole death thing isnt that bad, and you dont always see your life flash before your eyes.

My hell before I got dragged back out of it bymy shadow, was a pretty nice 65is degree f, cave just laying there in a cae. A blanket would have been nice, but meh.

But yeah, end game it's worse fighting it than just accepting it and going to sleep.

10b70a25 No.3587678

>>3587677
I know I'm being kinda contrary, but it's a mix of the extreme terror of the release of death, or just closing your eyes

9d197425 No.3587680

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>Are you serious? Proteins being recycled in the animal kingdom is in no way reincarnation.
Neurons: We exist, together we create a conscious at birth.

>I eat a lot of animal protein all the time. Doesn't mean those dead animals get to be conscious inside of me or take over my consciousness.

True. nature is far complex confusing and random let me explain. pieces of proteins will be dead chunks it won't take over your body. The proteins just be digested and possessed
If you are a male, these proteins will travel into your sperm inside your balls. if you are a female, it will grow as a human baby cell.

>This is stupid. You don't get reincarnated. Ever. Period. There is some truth. after researching in biology and cells it's called cell reconstruction. after death You don't remember a thing because you don't feel anything hear anything, it's a blank state. Cell reconstruction will take months until you are born at some point in a random animal or a human this is a cycle.


>Your consciousness is the web of synapses. Once that's decayed, you're done forever.

Indeed, it's going to take an long time till your atoms reconstruct into cells and into another animal to grow and give birth to your existance.

>Make an atom-by-atom copy and you're still done forever.

Atoms are random and humanity has no control over it.

>It needs to also have continuity in place.

Yes.

>That's why uploading yourself into a computer won't work either.

I have the same thought and I agree.

>Although there's a small chance that replacing the brain piece by piece slowly may work.

Sort of… but what about stem cell re fertilization?

It is physically possible, there doesn't seem to be one specific cluster of neurons that's the "you"
It's all in my and pain is just a sensory.

>and continuity is borderline preserved (whether it is or isn't will decide if the procedure kills you and replaces you with a copy, but the solution to that is have the connection rewiring be reversible, which means bits of brain will be on life support machinery). But such tech is probably hundreds of years into the future, if it will ever be made.

Great speculation. I still know little about the afterlife when we are recycled by these microbes.

It got me wondering that I cross some grim reaper's world.
I cut off the circulation of my arm as an experiment for a minute. To feel what death is like. it was cold and numb.

75ccab16 No.3587695

>>3587687

There is one problem, the brain in the jar has no ears, heart that pumps out blood to circulate blood, lungs that filters the carbon dioxide from the blood, and eyes that could see visual. That means all it could feel is flashing lights within itself.

a4181f0b No.3587722

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>>3587680
>>pieces of proteins will be dead chunks it won't take over your body. The proteins just be digested and possessed
>>If you are a male, these proteins will travel into your sperm inside your balls. if you are a female, it will grow as a human baby cell.
This isn't reincarnation. There's no memory data transfer.
Other creatures being made out of proteins that were once in you isn't reincarnation.

>>Indeed, it's going to take an long time till your atoms reconstruct into cells and into another animal to grow and give birth to your existance.

That's not your existence. You are your brain. Whatever that is, it's not you.

>>what about stem cell re fertilization?

What do you mean? Cloning? Still not you.

>>I still know little about the afterlife

There's no afterlife. Other creatures' being fed by what was once you isn't you living on. It's not.

>>I cut off the circulation of my arm as an experiment for a minute. To feel what death is like. it was cold and numb.

Death isn't cold or numb. It's not like a sleep without dreams either. It's just not existing. Your mind is not there anymore to reflect on or perceive not existing.

aad0b615 No.3590334

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It would be strange if some cannibal eat someone's brain and their conscious will be digested in their stomach and out the back end as shit.

71724b02 No.3590348

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>Should we fear death?

Yes, yes you should!

de5dbed5 No.3590354

>>3590348

Is that from Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey?
I got that DVD free with a pizza years ago.

71724b02 No.3590357

>>3590354
Death returns in Bill & Ted : Face The Music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz1Mf6VGjFc

dc06c6b6 No.3592916

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Life around you continues to exist even when you die the microbes and protein will eat your dead body and put you back together in a different organism, that pretty sums it all up. You body is just made of meat and flesh waiting to be eaten. ashes to ashes, water to water, protein to protein flesh to flesh. Earth is recycles the dead to living and repeat.

9817ad11 No.3592919

>>3415
Soul, heaven, hell, all bullshit speculations with no factual basis. Do brain lobes have individual souls? What about neurons? When you lose a part of your brain due to lobotomy or dementia, does that part go to heaven? How many parts of your brain do you need to lose before "you" as an individual go to heaven?

But not all is lost. We don't even understand what consciousness is, but one thing we know about it as a fact - someway, somehow, your consciousness was already conceived at least once. There is precedence that consciousness can be created out of lifeless molecules, and you are living proof of that. Who says that within a couple trillions of years, the stars can't align in the exact same way again, and recreate the exact same consciousness that you possess today?

8dba10c5 No.3592927

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Simple. Losing part of your brain is the same as brain damage. If you are still alive then you are not dead. Sounds like you've lost part of yours. See Phineas Gage.
No time to waste on fools and idiots.

8dba10c5 No.3592928

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Here, watch this. May explain some things to you.

'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G63UEqAeppk

ab0ee118 No.3598836

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Sure why not? your life starts out as a stem cell in another organism you cant see, hear, feel, taste, or smell anything at that stage. Lower lifeforms such as insects and sea crustaceans are cold blooded don't feel pain. Higher lifeforms that have warm blooded feel pain. Mammals feel pain. Life is short when you are born in the most vulnerable situation; beaten and tortured in suppressive countries. slaughtered by a human that raised you as meat product in a rich country. Life is longer in a situation stable parents, access to all of the knowledge of humanity's brutal history and documentaries about our planet earth and beyond the universe; till death. We will not remember anything at that point. It would dissolve to a white static to a black out. rebirth as another organism is a strange possible theory.

ab0ee118 No.3598837

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Place a mouse in a jar and leave it in room temperature and it would break into some bacterial soup compounds of proteins. Leave it in for 100 of years under a time capsule once release these proteins will reassemble themselves into new cells and poof in another animal.

393f16b2 No.3598851

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ab0ee118 No.3598852

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Life and death is part of a mathematical code, our universe is similar to a computer simulation if you kill and npc it will respawn just like in RPG games real life accidents is part of a simulation. To think of about it life goes on right know I'm just a human typing on a keyboard looking around on how lucky to alive curious about on how other's live their lives to the fullest. It is good and bad to be human in this flesh as we age we will feel careless, sleepy, and… too late to see how far we got to see beyond a mystery. Who knows? the after life could become before death. It's a cycle that the universe randomly generates; not a god.

60a1e873 No.3599058

>>3598852
nah its not math. >.> science maybe but raw math is a human idea in the way of our understanding of whats in front of us is based off prime examples of what we beleive it is. To some you might say it is very concrete example of reality while in other times it is not so much. The reality is versed in an adaptive representation of a portion of what something is, and the ability to identify it through the data that is informed by observable frequency. The matter it is made of is broken into a meta state of frequency and atomic weight, giving it chemical property. But it is derived from a meta state of a programmable database on higher levels of energy. The energy is basically God.

311c14e9 No.3599064

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>Should we fear death?

Nein. Your end will be peaceful and ze men will be replaced by zyborgs. Your consciousness ist no longer required.

054d77b0 No.3602688

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Focus on healthspan it is the a key factor that plays a role on lifespan.

60a1e873 No.3602700

The world is for the material hemisphere of existence. There are more dimensions than percievable via primitive eyes. Vision itself is not limited via optical sensory and some people are even psychic among other gifts included having pragmatism and future-viewing capability. That is because existence operates on a frequency and some people are born into high concentration of 'energy'. When death occurs there is a release from the dimensional binds, so that sovereign energies are channeled via a 'once' only pathway.

Reincarnation may happen because of that where a dimensional path redirects the Soul to its proper frequency. That life is renewed or reconstructed to the personal ability of that soul so those with great energy may even reach a state of Godliness through reincarnation.

In the usage of that energy the remediation for that death occurs and changes the outcome of the soul, on higher levels cheating death could involve being imprisoned as a crystal or other geometric waveform so that is why people sometimes notice Oobe Experiences with strange objects or people. It is because they are resident to that level of energy. But being a immortal crystal person with free domain is what I would call the objective of reincarnation.

d0ce26dc No.3602708

>>3587674
>This is stupid. You don't get reincarnated. Ever. Period. Your consciousness is the web of synapses. Once that's decayed, you're done forever. Make an atom-by-atom copy and you're still done forever. It needs to also have continuity in place. That's why uploading yourself into a computer won't work either.
And where did this continuity come from in the first place?

10b70a25 No.3602726

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One of the big problems when it comes to definitively disproving certain religious beliefs with causal high school science is that science as we know it slowly stops making sense the less you can directly look at it.

Gravity is the high functioning alcoholic of physical forces, it makes perfect sense generally, but unlike magnetic forces and things like that, its completely unobservable. Sure you can calculate gravitonic forces on massive bodies, but you just have to use faith that the calculations actually apply at smaller levels.

Electrons will act completely different when observed directly than they do when unobserved.

When you get into quantum physics, its just a giant fuckmess of stuff that seem to consistently want to break reality. I don't even know whats smaller than the chaotic evil of quarks, but is either nothing which means that everything is made of nothing, or stuff that makes even less sense.

You can't disprove all religious beliefs not because you can't prove a negative. Its just some things you either have to just accept we can't understand, or just really hold your ground in what you perceive as reality.

e31a8eb2 No.3602729

>>3602708
it grew from a couple cells donated from your mother including a bunch of dna instructing those cells what to do, and once the brain has grown large enough a consciousness starts to form inside the complex signalling between cells. Part of your personality comes from nature, the mix of cells inside your body that is determined by dna, the food available and the evironment you grew up in. Another larger part of your personality is determined by years of sensing the world and learning about things.

it's neat that you can see the same thing start to happen in artificial computer brains, i wonder how many more years it will be before you have to start questioning if shutting down or resetting a neural network counts as murder

d0ce26dc No.3602739

>>3602729
If it already grew once, why couldn't it grow again?

e31a8eb2 No.3602747

>>3602739
it wouldn't be you in any meaningful way, it would have a whole different set of memories and experiences

but if it was possible to make a perfect snapshot copy of you that retains every detail of every memory and has the exact same thought patterns, would they both be you? and would it be immoral to destroy a redundant copy of a person?

5bf35b48 No.3602753

>>3602747
You would essentially be replaced by a clone that would swap places with you and you would be its clone and your relationship with it is symbiotic. So killing yourself you would regress in your reincarnation and do a precarnation.

Basically you would become Voldemort with horcrux clones.

36b515f8 No.3607912

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Going to put this in the existential crisis thread later.

36b515f8 No.3607917

>>3607912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4KOuknaQyQ

well holy shit, thankfully we have parent that don't raised us like this kid.

36b515f8 No.3607918

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeGdJgWXJ6Q

as for this. it is disturbing….

36b515f8 No.3608070

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOrLN260Kvk
We are too late sustain earth and too early to explore space.

Planet Earth is unforgiving.
Being born in a political stable, rich, and secured country. you will live longer.
Being born in a political authoritarian, poor, and outlawed country. you will live short.
Every animal we eat and fuck doesn't matter. Every cult we join and destroy doesn't matter.
Every wars from country destroyed or created doesn't matter. It is all part of the human experience until death. rinse and repeat cremate your dead body thousands of years past you rebirth as a human again but if it is advance or primitive, good or bad, It's like the sims in a video game.

Watching every nation with problems and solutions stealing all the wealth in parties. A solar wave or an asteroid would destroy humanity within 4 hours. Humanity's life will existing until it wipes itself to extinction. Social Media Youtube has changed my life in perspective.

36b515f8 No.3608072

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What's the generation born in 2020?
Generation Alpha (or Gen Alpha for short) is the demographic cohort succeeding Generation Z. Researchers and popular media use the early 2010s as the starting birth years.

What is the greatest threat that might ruin their scientific engineering and physics career?
Let us hope that they grow up well build new things for us aging folks and not ending up in a political ideology that would murder us for stupid reasons. But that's what I fear.

52f611c7 No.3608074

>>3602747
Pauli's exclusion principle implies that there can only be one real "you" at one time. So the others are just really well made clones.

0ea967c0 No.3610904

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>>3610530
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgGp7Zvz5QA
Being hit by a train is painful slow death you will feel every minutes of it. Your brain will lose oxygen due to the loss of blood, things are starting to get blurry loss of hearing your in a state of a coma you will experience seeing a white light that is the flashing of neurons that are dying because of no oxygen in the brain and violent flashing of seizers occurs it is fully painful. last part is darkness all your grey matter proteins are trapped inside your skull as the micro organisms eat inside you. You wont feel anything.

9c574053 No.3618053

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I have read some of these books, and it gave me a perspective on the human blessed or cursed, slave or master, rich or poor, left or right, ethnicity, skin color, sex, gender etc. Every single speck of things that makes us tick and its either life or death. Speak out about your country how you are raised in.

128f426c No.3618400

Gautama Buddha is a wimp. Reincarnate until you win.

9e08e3ad No.3618420

>>3618400
That's how Buddhism works anyways.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa%E1%B9%83s%C4%81ra_(Buddhism)#Realms_of_rebirth

You may accumulate merit until you are re-born in the deva realm, but then you'll be so happy and untroubled that you will have no spiritual progress, and you will become attached to the world of physical pleasures, which leads to regress and a re-birth to one of the hell realms, or to animal realms, and the wheel of samsara makes a full revolution back to the starting point. It doesn't matter which way you turn the wheel, it's possible to fight your way through hell to become a god, but you will do that forever and ever because each of the positions is a slippery slope to the next place.

It's like Nietzsche's eternal recurring: realize that whatever pains or pleasures you have right now, you've had and will have for all eternity because the world is eternally coming back to the same point. All you can do is love it.



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