You're a mother fucker shut up.
Meds. Take them.
Frederik Pohl, "Gateway".
He was WAY ahead of you. And me.
i don't understand why it's so difficult for people to understand or accept that once you die you simply stop existing.
uploading your "soul" to a computer will never happen either, it might be a reasonably good emulation of how your brain worked but it won't be you. You are stuck inside your brain until it dies and then you're gone forever.
i know it's depressing but it's the truth.
When I die send me to a butcher and serve me to rich people at a charity dinner.
You know people would pay good money to have the opportunity to try human meat just to say they have.
Are you serious? Proteins being recycled in the animal kingdom is in no way reincarnation.
I eat a lot of animal protein all the time. Doesn't mean those dead animals get to be conscious inside of me or take over my consciousness.
This is stupid. You don't get reincarnated. Ever. Period. Your consciousness is the web of synapses. Once that's decayed, you're done forever. Make an atom-by-atom copy and you're still done forever. It needs to also have continuity in place. That's why uploading yourself into a computer won't work either.
Although there's a small chance that replacing the brain piece by piece slowly may
work. It is physically possible, there doesn't seem to be one specific cluster of neurons that's the "you", and continuity is borderline preserved (whether it is or isn't will decide if the procedure kills you and replaces you with a copy, but the solution to that is have the connection rewiring be reversible, which means bits of brain will be on life support machinery). But such tech is probably hundreds of years into the future, if it will ever be made.
I know I'm being kinda contrary, but it's a mix of the extreme terror of the release of death, or just closing your eyes
>Are you serious? Proteins being recycled in the animal kingdom is in no way reincarnation.
Neurons: We exist, together we create a conscious at birth.
>I eat a lot of animal protein all the time. Doesn't mean those dead animals get to be conscious inside of me or take over my consciousness.
True. nature is far complex confusing and random let me explain. pieces of proteins will be dead chunks it won't take over your body. The proteins just be digested and possessed
If you are a male, these proteins will travel into your sperm inside your balls. if you are a female, it will grow as a human baby cell.
>This is stupid. You don't get reincarnated. Ever. Period. There is some truth. after researching in biology and cells it's called cell reconstruction. after death You don't remember a thing because you don't feel anything hear anything, it's a blank state. Cell reconstruction will take months until you are born at some point in a random animal or a human this is a cycle.
>Your consciousness is the web of synapses. Once that's decayed, you're done forever.
Indeed, it's going to take an long time till your atoms reconstruct into cells and into another animal to grow and give birth to your existance.
>Make an atom-by-atom copy and you're still done forever.
Atoms are random and humanity has no control over it.
>It needs to also have continuity in place.
>That's why uploading yourself into a computer won't work either.
I have the same thought and I agree.
>Although there's a small chance that replacing the brain piece by piece slowly may work.
Sort of… but what about stem cell re fertilization?
It is physically possible, there doesn't seem to be one specific cluster of neurons that's the "you"
It's all in my and pain is just a sensory.
>and continuity is borderline preserved (whether it is or isn't will decide if the procedure kills you and replaces you with a copy, but the solution to that is have the connection rewiring be reversible, which means bits of brain will be on life support machinery). But such tech is probably hundreds of years into the future, if it will ever be made.
Great speculation. I still know little about the afterlife when we are recycled by these microbes.
It got me wondering that I cross some grim reaper's world.
I cut off the circulation of my arm as an experiment for a minute. To feel what death is like. it was cold and numb.
There is one problem, the brain in the jar has no ears, heart that pumps out blood to circulate blood, lungs that filters the carbon dioxide from the blood, and eyes that could see visual. That means all it could feel is flashing lights within itself.
>>3587680>>pieces of proteins will be dead chunks it won't take over your body. The proteins just be digested and possessed>>If you are a male, these proteins will travel into your sperm inside your balls. if you are a female, it will grow as a human baby cell.
This isn't reincarnation. There's no memory data transfer.
Other creatures being made out of proteins that were once in you isn't reincarnation.
>>Indeed, it's going to take an long time till your atoms reconstruct into cells and into another animal to grow and give birth to your existance.
That's not your existence. You are
your brain. Whatever that is, it's not you.
>>what about stem cell re fertilization?
What do you mean? Cloning? Still not you.
>>I still know little about the afterlife
There's no afterlife. Other creatures' being fed by what was once you isn't you living on. It's not.
>>I cut off the circulation of my arm as an experiment for a minute. To feel what death is like. it was cold and numb.
Death isn't cold or numb. It's not like a sleep without dreams either. It's just not existing. Your mind is not there anymore to reflect on or perceive not existing.
Is that from Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey?
I got that DVD free with a pizza years ago.
Soul, heaven, hell, all bullshit speculations with no factual basis. Do brain lobes have individual souls? What about neurons? When you lose a part of your brain due to lobotomy or dementia, does that part go to heaven? How many parts of your brain do you need to lose before "you" as an individual go to heaven?
But not all is lost. We don't even understand what consciousness is, but one thing we know about it as a fact - someway, somehow, your consciousness was already conceived at least once. There is precedence that consciousness can be created out of lifeless molecules, and you are living proof of that. Who says that within a couple trillions of years, the stars can't align in the exact same way again, and recreate the exact same consciousness that you possess today?
Here, watch this. May explain some things to you.
nah its not math. >.> science maybe but raw math is a human idea in the way of our understanding of whats in front of us is based off prime examples of what we beleive it is. To some you might say it is very concrete example of reality while in other times it is not so much. The reality is versed in an adaptive representation of a portion of what something is, and the ability to identify it through the data that is informed by observable frequency. The matter it is made of is broken into a meta state of frequency and atomic weight, giving it chemical property. But it is derived from a meta state of a programmable database on higher levels of energy. The energy is basically God.
The world is for the material hemisphere of existence. There are more dimensions than percievable via primitive eyes. Vision itself is not limited via optical sensory and some people are even psychic among other gifts included having pragmatism and future-viewing capability. That is because existence operates on a frequency and some people are born into high concentration of 'energy'. When death occurs there is a release from the dimensional binds, so that sovereign energies are channeled via a 'once' only pathway.
Reincarnation may happen because of that where a dimensional path redirects the Soul to its proper frequency. That life is renewed or reconstructed to the personal ability of that soul so those with great energy may even reach a state of Godliness through reincarnation.
In the usage of that energy the remediation for that death occurs and changes the outcome of the soul, on higher levels cheating death could involve being imprisoned as a crystal or other geometric waveform so that is why people sometimes notice Oobe Experiences with strange objects or people. It is because they are resident to that level of energy. But being a immortal crystal person with free domain is what I would call the objective of reincarnation.
>>3587674>This is stupid. You don't get reincarnated. Ever. Period. Your consciousness is the web of synapses. Once that's decayed, you're done forever. Make an atom-by-atom copy and you're still done forever. It needs to also have continuity in place. That's why uploading yourself into a computer won't work either.
And where did this continuity come from in the first place?
it grew from a couple cells donated from your mother including a bunch of dna instructing those cells what to do, and once the brain has grown large enough a consciousness starts to form inside the complex signalling between cells. Part of your personality comes from nature, the mix of cells inside your body that is determined by dna, the food available and the evironment you grew up in. Another larger part of your personality is determined by years of sensing the world and learning about things.
it's neat that you can see the same thing start to happen in artificial computer brains, i wonder how many more years it will be before you have to start questioning if shutting down or resetting a neural network counts as murder
If it already grew once, why couldn't it grow again?
it wouldn't be you in any meaningful way, it would have a whole different set of memories and experiences
but if it was possible to make a perfect snapshot copy of you that retains every detail of every memory and has the exact same thought patterns, would they both be you? and would it be immoral to destroy a redundant copy of a person?
You would essentially be replaced by a clone that would swap places with you and you would be its clone and your relationship with it is symbiotic. So killing yourself you would regress in your reincarnation and do a precarnation.
Basically you would become Voldemort with horcrux clones.
well holy shit, thankfully we have parent that don't raised us like this kid.
We are too late sustain earth and too early to explore space.
Planet Earth is unforgiving.
Being born in a political stable, rich, and secured country. you will live longer.
Being born in a political authoritarian, poor, and outlawed country. you will live short.
Every animal we eat and fuck doesn't matter. Every cult we join and destroy doesn't matter.
Every wars from country destroyed or created doesn't matter. It is all part of the human experience until death. rinse and repeat cremate your dead body thousands of years past you rebirth as a human again but if it is advance or primitive, good or bad, It's like the sims in a video game.
Watching every nation with problems and solutions stealing all the wealth in parties. A solar wave or an asteroid would destroy humanity within 4 hours. Humanity's life will existing until it wipes itself to extinction. Social Media Youtube has changed my life in perspective.
Pauli's exclusion principle implies that there can only be one real "you" at one time. So the others are just really well made clones.
Gautama Buddha is a wimp. Reincarnate until you win.
That's how Buddhism works anyways.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa%E1%B9%83s%C4%81ra_(Buddhism)#Realms_of_rebirth
You may accumulate merit until you are re-born in the deva realm, but then you'll be so happy and untroubled that you will have no spiritual progress, and you will become attached to the world of physical pleasures, which leads to regress and a re-birth to one of the hell realms, or to animal realms, and the wheel of samsara makes a full revolution back to the starting point. It doesn't matter which way you turn the wheel, it's possible to fight your way through hell to become a god, but you will do that forever and ever because each of the positions is a slippery slope to the next place.
It's like Nietzsche's eternal recurring: realize that whatever pains or pleasures you have right now, you've had and will have for all eternity because the world is eternally coming back to the same point. All you can do is love it.