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How will they recover?

No.3497574
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The first time with the gender image, that was funny trolling.
Now I think he's just poking the bear and sniffing around for trouble. I mean don't get me wrong, he can't draw what he wants, just be prepared for people bitching and moaning at you and to loose followers (only to gain them back through people who agree with you).

TBH of I drew I would just stick to porn and keep /pol/ as far away from my arts as possible.

No.3497575

>>3497574
*can draw what he wants.

No.3497586

Sometimes isn't always! Checkmate alt-right!

Seriously. I wish people who take the time to research positions they want to go out of their way to criticize. The alt-right have a lot of weird ass views, but this is a straw man.

No.3497593

>>3497571
Traditionally brewed soy sauce is actually the one acceptable soy product. It has reduced estrogen compared to regular soy, and the fermentation process destroys the antinutrients. Miso, on the other hand has elevated estrogen in it.

I wouldn't trust the cheap non-fermented fake soy sauce, though.

No.3497605

>>3497568

Isn't Roarey Raccoon himself and anti-trans libertarian?

No.3497611

>>3497607
Yeah, go ahead and eat any legumes without soaking and cooking them first. They have the same shit in them. Soy is just more resistant to soaking and cooking. Fermentation is the only thing that really works to neutralize them in soy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lectins

No.3497627

>>3497614
Well yeah, they had witch doctors to cure them back then. We had witch doctors for fucking millennia until some fags in lab coats started causing a panic over them.

No.3497633

this guy still here

No.3497660

>>3497629
>>3497631
The point was that things we've done for millennia are not automatically right.

There's no arguement whether soy reduces your testosterone. It does. The only debate is whether its by a significant level. If you eat it occasionally, you're probably okay. If you try to live off of it, it will have an impact.

There is a reason why vegan body builders require testosterone supplements.

No.3497662

>>3497660
And I say this as someone who practically was living off of it for a few weeks. I was getting most of my protein from TVP, eating at 1700 calories a day, and working out at least every other day. Soon after substituting more meat for TVP, I stopped losing weight and my metabolism just dropped. I was always tired and had gas bad enough to stink up a quarter of the gym. My hatred for soy is not political, it is personal. I'm just lucky that around that time I happened to read something about the harms of soy.

No.3497671

>>3497662
Soy and legumes in general, foods touted as "vegan meat" etc. are a really poor substitute for meat protein.

Legumes contain certain kinds of lectins, which bind to nutrients and causes poor absorption in the gut, which leads to the typical rumbly stomach and wind when you eat beans. That also goes for most nuts, which is another source of protein. These chemicals are kinda like the nicotine of legumes - it evolved as a pesticide to make animals eating legumes sick and weak. They are tolerated as a part of a varied diet, but trying to use soy or beans as a staple food easily results in malnutrition because the typical processing/cooking techniques don't remove all of the lectin. Tofu and other fermented products developed because they break down these chemicals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lectin

>Foods with high concentrations of lectins, such as beans, cereal grains, seeds, nuts, and potatoes, may be harmful if consumed in excess in uncooked or improperly-cooked form.
>Lectins are considered a major family of protein antinutrients (ANCs)
>The toxicity of lectins has been identified by consumption of food with high lectin content, which may lead to diarrhea, nausea, bloating, and vomiting.
>Many legume seeds have been proven to contain high lectin activity, termed "hemagglutination.".[23] >Soybean is the most important grain legume crop in this category. Its seeds contain high activity of soybean lectins (soybean agglutinin or SBA). SBA is able to disrupt small intestinal metabolism and damage small intestinal villi via the ability of lectins to bind with brush border surfaces in the distal part of small intestine.[24]
>Heat processing can reduce the toxicity of lectins, but low temperature or insufficient cooking may not completely eliminate their toxicity, as some plant lectins are resistant to heat.
No.3497672

>>3497662
TVP in itself is also not a great source of protein, since all the fats are removed and it contains 50% carbs.

So if you're trying to avoid carbs to lose weight, you want to increase fats and protein, and substituting meat for TVP just adds to your carb intake. If you want to make a "balanced" diet out of it, you'd have to drop all other carb sources and pretty much eat just oil and TVP to get a 1:1:1 ratio between them, but then you're subsisting mainly on the TVP for 2:3 of your food intake and that will make your stomach turn. Adding other sources of carbs for vitamins and essential nutrients will result in excessive carbs intake and that's no good for bodybuilding.

The process of making TVP is also a bit nasty. Kinda like "pink slime", they use hexane to remove the fats, and then process the leftovers with high pressure and heat which turns the material into a denatured thermoplastic

The denaturation of proteins isn't necessarily a bad thing, as it's a process that already happens in your gut. Essentially, it's just pre-digesting the food - however it has a similiar effect to high GI carbohydrates in that the protein is absorbed faster and causes a faster rise in blood glucose as it is metabolized, which leads to weight gain since the body doesn't have immediate use for the energy - there's a speed limit to how fast your muscles (re)build themselves, and the excess energy goes to fat. That's why, if you subsist on high GI foods, it's better to eat smaller meals more often.

No.3497682

>>3497680
i'll keep

  • having endless energy
  • stacking inches on my arms
  • getting huge, rock hard erections in the blink of an eye

you can keep eating carrots and defending women on the internet if that's what works for you

No.3497683

>>3497680
the left truly can't meme for shit

No.3497687

>>3497684

https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/17/7/1692/576913

>Infant feeding with soy formula milk: effects on the testis and on blood testosterone levels in marmoset monkeys during the period of neonatal testicular activity
>RESULTS: Weight gain and formula intake were similar in both feeding groups. SMA-fed males had mean testosterone levels of 2.8–3.1 ng/ml, typical of the ‘neonatal testosterone rise’, whereas SFM-fed males exhibited consistently lower mean levels (1.2–2.6 ng/ml); paired comparison in SMA-and SFM-fed co-twins at day 35–45 revealed 53–70% lower levels in 11 of 13 co-twins fed with SFM (P = 0.004). Further evidence for suppression of testosterone levels in SFM-fed males came from comparison of the frequency of low testosterone levels (<0.5 ng/ml).

SMF refers to soy milk formula. SMA is the control.

Also:
https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/23/11/2584/2913898

>There was an inverse association between soy food intake and sperm concentration that remained significant after accounting for age, abstinence time, body mass index, caffeine and alcohol intake and smoking. In the multivariate-adjusted analyses, men in the highest category of soy food intake had 41 million sperm/ml less than men who did not consume soy foods
No.3497689

>>3497684
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1207/S15327914NC3601_3

>Inverse Association of Soy Product Intake With Serum Androgen and Estrogen Concentrations in Japanese Men
>Total and free testosterone concentrations were inversely correlated with soy product intake after controlling for the covariates
> Similar correlations were observed for these hormones with isoflavone intake from soy products. The data suggest that soy product intake may be associated with the endogenous hormone levels in Japanese men.
No.3497703
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That's a fundamental misunderstanding of what race realism is.

Race realism is simply acknowledging the obvious. Races exist, and it's not "just skin color".
WHAT RACE REALISM DOESN'T MEAN IS HOW TO TREAT PEOPLE BASED ON RACE AND IF CULTURE IS INDEED IN PART DUE TO RACE.

Homo sapiens sapiens populations that have lived in geographical segregation for thousands and tens of thousands of years have accumulated genetic differences enough to be (in their pure form, excluding interracial hybrids) very easily distinguishable. By looks, and sometimes even by sound (you can sometimes tell that somebody is of another race even if their accent is absolutely native and flawless, you can just feel it from the ring of their voice)

Body build and bone shape, the shape of certain organs and systems (ex. nasal cavity differences, prevalence of genetic disorders, difference in reflexes, differences in IQ. All of these exist.

The "number of races that exist" depends on how much precision you want in your classification, but you can't just magic away these aspects of our biological reality entirely, just because some people decide to split hairs about individual races.

A good example of splitting hairs about race would be Ashkenazi Jews. Are they racially/genetically white? I say yes. They may sometimes have recognizable traits (frizzly hair and specific balding pattern, nose shape, prevalence of certain diseases more than in the general population) but due to their descent laws (father can be non-Jewish) and the option to convert to Judaism (not opening the can of worms that is acceptance of "new Jews") their Middle-Eastern heritage has been at this point so diluted by European genes that they are basically white people. And the far right says no case muh zionism.

I think what the Alt-Right is trying to say is that certain low IQ races just couldn't have the aggregate brainpower (even if they have geniuses among them, just like any other race) to build a civilization as complex and as technologically advanced as Western Civilization (proof: they never did, even back then when the entire world was nothing but savage barbarians) and that we shouldn't rely on them to continue our legacy. I suppose you could also add East-Asian civilizations to that, they were pretty far ahead of their time too, it's just that unfortunately their rigid social order prevented them from advancing any further in the past. Nowadays they are doing better than us almost.

Basically, this issue is really complex, there's a lot of bullshit on the far right about race, but even the moderate left seems to be denying the existence of races completely, and simply because they believe they'll make a better world by shoving this fact under the rug. All while ignoring and encouraging racial pride and even outright racial suprematists on the non-white side.

TL;DR race is a fact, but don't be racist towards individual people

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>>3497702
That's a bullshit picture. The circled weights are not the reflection of the bar that the guy is lifting.

The two arrows added to the picture point at a different bar sitting on a rack behind the guy, and the reflection of that in the mirror behind. The bar that the guy is holding has no reflection visible in the mirror due to the low angle that the picture is taken from.

No.3497743

>>3497703

>Race realism is simply acknowledging the obvious. Races exist, and it's not "just skin color".

Race "realism" is mistaking a bunch of trees for a forest without realizing that the forest is an arbitrary concept and a non-real entity dependent on how you define the criteria.

For example, let's imagine a group of people with features/traits A, B, C. Then suppose the group consists of people AB, AC, BC. You may group them into "races" according to A, B, or C so that you may have (AB, AC) and (BC), or (AC, BC) and (AB), or (AB, BC) and (AC) with equal justification. There's no obvious choice between any of these groupings.

Now let's further imagine that A is a visible phenotypical feature, such as the lenght of your nose or the color of your skin, and use lower case letters to represent the non-visible features. Then we get people who are Ab, Ac, bc. Now it becomes "obvious" that the grouping should be (Ab, Ac) vs. (bc) even though we still lack any reason why b or c aren't equally important criteria.

This is what happens with race realism. People define races according to the ease of telling people apart in everyday life, not by what their actual differences are. Meanwhile genetic studies tell that the differences are not clearly delineated, but flow smoothly from one area to the next like a hill turns into a valley, and different features are distributed differently, like there are hills in valleys and valleys in hills at different elevations.

This error in thinking is called the streelight effect:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streetlight_effect

>The streetlight effect is a type of observational bias that occurs when people are searching for something and look only where it is easiest.[1][2][3][4] Another term for this is a drunkard's search.
>A policeman sees a drunk man searching for something under a streetlight and asks what the drunk has lost. He says he lost his keys and they both look under the streetlight together. After a few minutes the policeman asks if he is sure he lost them here, and the drunk replies, no, and that he lost them in the park. The policeman asks why he is searching here, and the drunk replies, "this is where the light is".
No.3497746

>>3497743
Or in the example above, even if you argue that "race realism isn't just about skin color", you still have to justify why you would put all the phenotypically similiar people in the same group (Ab, Ac) vs. (bc)

Suppose A means "black skin". It's inconcievable for the "race realist" to admit to a race that consists of (Ac, bc) under a criteria that puts the line between b/c because it would create a race of mixed color.

Yet this is what actually exists in the real world, because there's more genetic variation among black people than there is in white people. There are groups of black people who share more traits with white people than with some other groups of blacks - yet they are not considered white because race in reality, race realism, is fundamentally a social concept and not a biological one.

No.3497748

>>3497703

>I think what the Alt-Right is trying to say is that certain low IQ races

If you make a distinction between traits that lead to low IQ, then you run into the trouble that all your races exhibit individuals with these traits, and you cannot pin it as a feature of any particular one.

Otherwise you'd be making up races of "stupid" vs. "intelligent" humans, and in doing so you'd have to mix other features such that you get "blackwhite-smart" and "blackwhite-stupid". Now it's easy to see that this does not happen with race realists, and instead they fall down to special pleading to force the racial categories to go along skin color into "black-stupid", "black-smart" and "white-smart" to avoid splitting the white into distinct races and to keep separating their whites from the blacks.

No.3497750

The alt-right is dying. They're ridiculed because their hero is a Greek Jew that sucks black cock, their president is a selfish Israel-pandering Jew that used and backstabbed them, and they have yet to change the world in the least.

watching Gamergate flip their shit because Drumpf hates video games is fucking hilarious, because they knew this from statements he's said in he past. Just like how he's bragged about being a Jew, they ignored it because "he pisses off esjaydubyas". That's the nature of Drumpfkins though, hurting themselves just to spite their perceived threats they barely understand but they know they hate because it's not Aryan Christian.

They were mostlydead whentheir bigot failur eof a hypocritical meme Ron Paul failed to get elected(didn't even come close), saw a resurgence because Trump genuinely is a racist that uses women, but are finding out he didn't care about them and only saw them as a tool, well that and his Russian allies. In fact, he didn't need the alt-wrong at all, Putin had enough power to get him in.

No.3497751

Plus, there's the fact that many observable features, like low IQ, are to a great extent not genetically but environmentally determined. Such as low iodine availability, which is one of the major cause of mental retardation and was a huge problem even in the US until recently. It's is a feature of continental diets, where people further inland from the sea get deficient because there's no local source.

https://en.wikipedia.org
/wiki/Iodine_deficiency#Deficient_populations

>Iodine deficiency is the leading cause of preventable mental retardation, a result which occurs primarily when babies or small children are rendered hypothyroidic by a lack of the element. The addition of iodine to table salt has largely eliminated this problem in the wealthier nations, but as of March 2006, iodine deficiency remained a serious public health problem in the developing world.

The problem with race realism is, that when the race realists go to Africa to measure the IQ of some tribe in the middle of the darkest jungle, they conveniently leave out this variable and claim that because these people are borderline retarded they must be a race of retarded people.

So the geographical argument holds no water either - just because you find obvious differences between different peoples doesn't mean the differences have an obvious cause in their race.

No.3497755

>>3497702
aight baby dick

No.3497762

I thought one of the main reasons anyone would want to draw furry is to get away from ethnicity and disgusting looking humans all together

So why do the opposite and make furry a medium for racism when its virtually non existent? (aside from naylor hyenas)

the comic is either for 1) look at me I need attention also hey I happen to have commissions open 2) typical and seemingly neverending liberal virtue signalling, incorrect assumptions and a spoonful of name calling or 3) just some 19 year old soyboy protesting about a complicated issue they want to get their emotions off on

also no one's going to read this because its the same libshit discussion thread so plug my ass with a sausage and tickle my frenulum with a waterpick

No.3497815

>>3497762

>I thought one of the main reasons anyone would want to draw furry is to get away from ethnicity and disgusting looking humans all together

That's the main reason for gay furries, as the male furries are pasty nerds. For the girls, hiding behind a fursona is a way to act slutty and gain attention in the easiest way - whoring out - without being a literal camwhore.

Think about it. A fursona is like doing porn of yourself with a paper bag over your head. Now why would you do that? Either because you're ugly as sin, or because you want to avoid the social stigma.

No.3497832

>>3497824

>.com

You know that it's a scientific publisher's website, right? Oxford Academic for example, and that those are commercial entities, hence the .com, and that the articles they list are found in actual journals like "Human Reprodoction", which is also published by Oxford.

But nice ad-hominem anyhow. Too bad it backfired, because you didn't check who you're actually calling bullshit, which shows how little you know about the subject and how willing you are to lie.

No.3497880

i only trust .io domains
tips premature baldness

No.3497891

>>3497824
You've been presented with evidence against your case. Care to present any in favor of it?

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>>3497703

Race realism is a loaded term, as it describes an ideology. What you are describing is a general concept of race. Race realism is to the validity of race what Feminism is to the validity of women.

That is to say, it may cover those things but it obviously not as innocuous as that -- I'd go far as to say that implying otherwise would be a motte-and-bailey approach designed to subtly normalize some fringe ideologies regarding race (with little-to-no scientific basis or merit) into the mainstream.

>>3497750
they're all still living inside your head, rent-free. May you find peace one day.

>>3497762
you're being a reactionary with all those edgy buzzwords. Roarey sometimes goes off on sperg crusades and seems to revel in the negative attention. Might feed a smugness quota or something. Go look for info on when he cheesed off sjw's claiming he was transphobic for some stupid bullshit conflating gender and sex

No.3497916

>>3497907

>And if some outside group is responsible for putting them there, that sounds like a conspiracy.

Racism is a conspiracy - it's certain self-identified social groups colluding to exclude others consciously and unconsciously, overtly and covertly. It's a simple sociological effect where, if a difference between people can be made, some people will try to make the difference to be in their own benefit and then invent bullshit reasons why the excluded people "deserve" it and why there's nothing you need to do about it.

E.g. niggers are poor because they're stupid, instead of being stupid because they're poor, so I don't have to share any of my wealth, which I gained by exploiting all the stupid people, to help them.

No.3497917

>>3497861

>>my .com site is too legit!!!!1!
>lolno

The reference is to the article, not to the site that hosts it. You're complaining that since a .com site carries the article, it's not legit - even as the site happens to be of a well-known academic institution and the paper a copy from a reputable peer-reviewed journal.

What a weak troll.

No.3497920

>>3497900

>Race realism is to the validity of race what Feminism is to the validity of women.

I'd say the concept of race and feminism are more comparable on a conceptual level. Like:

Race realism - racism - people
Social constructivism - feminism - women

The idea that races are real is used to support practical everyday racism, which is used to support non-egalitarian treatment of people, just like feminism is used to support non-egalitarian treatment of the sexes. The theoretical consideration of race has nothing to do with the practical application of racism, just the same as how the screeching hordes of SJWs or feminists are using social constructivism to excuse their abuse.

It's for this reason why you can't separate race realism from racism itself. Its proponents are making pseudo-scientific claims not in order to discover what's really happening, but to support their preconcieved notions.

No.3497921

>>3497918

>>still can't come up with an academic source

I just did. You're just kicking and screaming that it isn't. The articles I'm referring to are:

Human Reproduction, Volume 17, Issue 7, 1 July 2002, Pages 1692–1703, https://doi.org/10.1093/humrep/17.7.1692

Human Reproduction, Volume 23, Issue 11, 1 November 2008, Pages 2584–2590, https://doi.org/10.1093/humrep/den243

Nutrition and Cancer Volume 36, 2000 - Issue 1 Pages 14-18 https://doi.org/10.1207/S15327914NC3601_3

These are from academic sources, published in peer-reviewed journals, and reproduced for view on a .com site for your convenience. Now, are you still going to make an ass of yourself, or do you admit being wrong?

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>>3497920

>Its proponents are making pseudo-scientific claims not in order to discover what's really happening, but to support their preconcieved notions
>black people aren't actually stupid and violent on a frightening level, racists just have preconcieved notions about being mugged and having glocks shoved in their faces by black people

t. pasty face white boy living in his parent's gated community

No.3497986

>>3497956

>racists just have preconcieved notions about being mugged and having glocks shoved in their faces by black people
>I know. Let's oppress, dehumanize and exploit an entire class of people, hang them for fun, exclude them from education and from political positions, generally treat them like criminals. Then we should stop doing that, but not really, and expect them to behave.
>Oh noes they're killing us! It must be because they're black! That means we were right before! Boo! Boo! Blacks should go back to Africa!
No.3497987

>>3497969

>People are free to exclude others.

True, but it has consequences. Sure, you can have a society based on blatant racism, but since the concept of race is imaginary and arbitrary, it can just as easily be turned on you. I.e. "You're Irish, you're not even human", or "One drop is enough", and boom, your 1/64th caribbean ancestry puts you to the gallows.

> As in the Democrats using those negros as voting livestock. Never allowing them to progress and actively making them regress. That's pretty darn racist of them.

True. Leftism is like a smothering mother that ruins her children.

No.3497991

>>3497955

>>random articles from nearly 20 years ago
>2008

Truth doesn't age. If you want to argue against the point, present new evidence. Problem is, phytoestrogens DO affect humans.

>>3497976

>>the same three articles that no one who cites it has actually read

The conclusions are available in the quotes presented.

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>>3497986

Thank you for finally admitting black people are stupid and violent.

No.3498018

>>3498014

>>debunked within minutes

Finally. Took you only three days to do a simple google scholar search.

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>>3498008

>Thank you for finally admitting black people are stupid and violent.

I was never in disagreement. The question about blacks being violent or stupid is about causes and conclusions. See >>3497748

If you make a distinction between traits that lead to low IQ, then you run into the trouble that all your races exhibit individuals with these traits, and you cannot pin it as a feature of any particular one.

No.3498021

>>3498008
You see, the idea of races has no power of scientific explaination and prediction. You can observe that an individual belongs to a race, as defined by some criteria, but you cannot go from that defined race back to the individual to claim that they necessarily have these particular traits.

The usefulness of race as a scientific tool is below the concept of a subspecies, which is already arbitrary and subjective to the person doing the taxonomy. The concept of races of man is equal to the concept of races of animals, which exist only due to our insistence and efforts of keeping them separate, and it's this artifical conscious involvement of the person defining the race that makes race a circular argument: races exist only as and how you want them to exist.

No.3498022

>>3498020
The same evidence could have been presented three days ago instead of trying to fling ad-hominems. It took this long for the blind chickens to find the seed.

No.3498023

>>3498014
That paper actually says exactly what I said: If you only eat a little soy, it wont have a noticeable effect. If you eat a lot of it, it will lower your testosterone/raise your estrogen, especially if you're an old man or little boy who doesn't produce much testosterone to begin with.

It cites the case of the old guy who grow tits which they estimate consumed 300mg of isoflavone a day, then it cites a bunch of studies in which none exceeded 150mg a day. It just argues that too much of anything is bad for you, that if he drank that much cow milk instead of soy milk that he'd be getting unsafe amounts of calcium too.

So yes, too much soy will feminize you. Thanks for admitting that.

No.3498029

>>3498024
I don't think you read it. I think you just read the summary, if even that.

No.3498032

>>3498029
I read it. It proves you wrong. Which I already knew because it was obvious that you were wrong. /pol/ retardation BTFO as usual.

No.3498035

>>3498024
Also, I want to know why my opinion of soy dictates my political leanings. I guess the OP is about the alt right, but I haven't once said anything remotely political and have been called alt right multiple times. I'm also apparently a dudebro because I leave my basement once every few days to go to the gym.

>>3497676
Strength training and high intensity interval training is probably the best thing you can do for your metabolism. I'm kind of autistic about my diet and record my daily weight and calories. I try to avoid lectins and xenoestrogens as much as possible, and try to eat things as low on the gycemic index as I can. Try to phase out sugars over time; your sense of taste will slowly re-adjust to not being constantly assaulted by sweetness. Other sources of those are flax seed, which actually have significantly more xenoestrogens than soy, and brans (wheat in particular) which are high in lectins. Dairy fats also have lots of xenoestrogens, and animal fat in general I think, although I haven't done much research on those because I try to generally avoid fat anyway.

Generally the less processed a food is, the healthier it is.

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>>3497986

>complains about stereotyping and the damaging dirty cycle by keeping minorities under the foot and constantly under siege by abusive supremacists.
>perpetuate the same cycle like >>3498008 does and wonder "what would go wrong lol!"
No.3498050

>>3498037
I refuse to confirm or deny it because it is utterly irrelevant. I'm more interested in debating ideas than identities.

No.3498055

>>3498052
So you would prefer it if the alt right were identitarians 100% of the time? It's just inconsistency that bothers you? lol k

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>>3498021

>there are certain species of dogs which have different levels of intelligence such as cocker spaniels being smart and pugs being dumb, and yet they are all canines capable of interbreeding
>there are NO DIFFERENCES IN HUMANS WE ARE ALL ONE RACE REEEEEEEEEE SCIENCE GET OUT
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>>3498038

>I observe that rocks are hard
>liberal: sure
>I observe that water is wet
>liberal: makes sense
>I observe that black people are stupid and violent
>liberal: stop perpetuating the cycle!

Have you figured out why Trump won yet?

No.3498063

>>3498052

Isn't the modern Left engaging in nothing BUT identity politics?

As if you aren't a certain shade of brown or have a vagina, then your opinion means less?

Cuz... that's what's going on.

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No.3498088

>>3498077

You just described every single thing that Trump has been doing.

From the dumbastic comments and his inability to accept his crowds were smaller. To the constant disparaging of NO COLLUSION!!

And being babysit by the staff to prevent him from pretty much confirming he is neck deep on crimes.

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>>3498062

>>I observe that black people are stupid and violent
>Focuses on a single race and ignores there are stupidity and intelligent people on every race.
>forgets fine examples of white stupidity like inbreeding/incest
>redneck games, jackass and other fine examples of stupidity. Tidepods eating and other dares..
>insists only blacks do stupid and violent stuff.
>imperialism and warring in europe has been constant for millennia...
>still insists only blacks do stupid and violent stuff.
No.3498133

>>3498089
White people "inbreeding" and "stupidity" isn't on the same level as the issues with blacks, or brown people in general. Don't forget about Jews! They're a big problem. There's a bigotry around socialists, like National Socialists, thinking they only hate "nigras" and shit, where those types of socialists hate white people for mix breeding, hate Jews (not white!), hate other races or other behavior.

You need to check your hate privilege, because white people can and do hate lots of other races. Those people that JUST hate white people? Those are the real racists, and a little more in line with what you're projecting onto white national socialists.

No.3498143

>>3498133
Speaking of inbred. The likes of you don't get to go to the gulag. Filth like you gets sent straight to the wall.

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>>3498133

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>>3498133
If the government didn't step in, the entire white "human" white subspecies would have been eradicated by Tide-Pod eating by now. No other "subspecies" would be this retarded. Whites deserve death.

Blacks and Hispanics don't need Walmart to step in to keep races from poisoning themselves.

No.3498219

>>3498062

>Have you figured out why Trump won yet?

white identity politics is the answer, if any of you were curious

No.3498224

>>3498162

Right... Have you heard of Lean? https://justbelieverecoverypa.com/lean-drug/

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>>3498223

>Trump didn't win by "white" votes alone.

You sure about that?

No.3498243

>>3498240
Yeah, move all the non-white votes for Trump to Hillary and you have her winning soundly.

Not everyone is blinded by the bullshit democratic narrative of "progress and tolerance". People of all races and backgrounds see the DNC for the cesspit of corruption it is, lots got disillusioned when DNC turned primaries into a banana republic style "voting", and many got burned by SJWs going all out and hurting the minorities they claim to protect, e.g. by attacking people of color perusing their own heritage for "cultural appropriation".

No.3498244

>>3498243
Well, at least you're woke enough to embrace your white identity.

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>>3497742

>The bar that the guy is holding has no reflection visible in the mirror

Yes it does, you double nigger. Stop trolling.

No.3498342

>>3498272
Gerrymandering matters only in the house/senate elections. In presidential elections district borders are the state lines.

Or did you mean the elector system? The very system that Trump was bashing in his campaign - and DNC was bashing Trump for bashing the elector system?

Sure, eliminating it would be a step towards actual equality, democracy where one citizen = one vote, and s and votes are equal. A noble endeavor. But Trump is no longer as eager to remove it, and it doesn't seem DNC is too eager about that either.

No.3498353

>>3498342
and that is why the founding fathers created the electoral system in the first place, to PREVENT the the "mob rule" nonsense that is democracy.

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No.3506374

>>3506372
what the hell are you supposed to do with those clips and that rifle?

No.3506376

>>3506372 Kekistan isn't a real country.

No.3506389

>>3506376
Neither was Israel!

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>>3506389 Isn't the Commander and Chief of Kekistan a black guy?

I don't understand how it's a white supremacy symbol.

Isn't just nationalized shit posting?

No.3506408

>>3506400
"the left can't meme" isn't just a meme

No.3506414

>>3506372 Always a laugh "What about the memes" guy vs real hardcore racists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwg20F6Ve9I

There's Kekistanian 'wanna-be-edgy, 4chan, just for the lulz' alt-right and then there's 'cross burning, brick-through-window, lynching' alt-right. Rarely do the two meet.

No.3506419

>>3506414
I am endlessly relieved that the left doesn't meme. That shit is an embarrassment factory.

No.3506431

>>3506419
double bads news: they do and they are really bad at it

No.3506437

>>3506431

>the left can't maymay!!!1!

Good.

>i-i-i mean they can but I don't like it!!!!!!1!11!

Good.

No.3506438

I want to plug realist roo in either the butt or his big mouth. Is that weird? Roarey needs to stop making Ayn Rand-tier mouthpiece characters already, the autismo is a bit too cringe to appreciate it for anything no matter how wrong or right his opinions are.

>>3497574
The only difference was this time, you didn't laugh. Think about that the next time you consume shit-tier political cartoons

No.3506439

>>3506437
looks like the left also can't read

No.3506440

>>3506439
I can read just fine. The problem here is that you, like all rightwinger trash, can't comprehend the idea that anyone would fundamentally despise you. The meme thing isn't relevant. What matters is that you continue to be unhappy.

No.3506456

I thought Roarey was an alt-rightist who was offended that transgender people exist? What happen, the conservatives tell him to fuck off for being a furry?

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>>3506456

Transgender snowflakes get bent out of shape over the dumbest things.. especially when people don't believe the bullshit they're peddling.

No.3506585

>>3506580
Trans idiots are just gross no matter what happens.

No.3506616

>>3506580

This thing is still wrong.

Because when people get other chromosomes, they do not always have fully functioning nor equally body of specified sexes like they love to claim here.

There are RARE but documented cases of women with dongs, or males with vaginas based on defects on the chromosomes.

Others have micro penises and malformed sexual organs.

No.3506694

>>3497605
Yes, Roarey is a confirmed fash, transphobe and bigot. Avoid him like plague, he should be banned by now.

No.3506707

>>3506580
"Transgender snowflakes get bent out of shape over the dumbest things." -person who is mad 24/7 about other people's junk

No.3506709

>>3506616

Genetic disorders aren't genders. We don't say humans have a spectrum of arms because a baby in India was both with 8.

No.3506711

>>3506709
Genders aren't arms. False equivalence.

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>>3506711
did someone say arms

No.3506714

>>3506709
No but we do say "Jesus Christ, that is horrible. Look how messed up India is now that it has a messed up, mutant kid"

...and I thought we were supposed to support aborting malformed humans? Isn't that "progressive"? Isn't that what we hated about Palin cuz she had some "retard baby cuz Jesus?"

No.3506715

>>3506712
What's funny, is that those "minute men" owned things like cannons, some as large as what was on a royal navy man-o-war!

No.3506719

>>3506711

They're not generic abnormalities either.

No.3506720

>>3506715
What's also funny is that they were actually trained with such arms; they didn't buy them - or a hundred others much like them - for the express purpose of showing them off to others.

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>>3506715
This is true. Merchants were allowed to fit their trading vessels with cannons to defend against the Barbary pirates. Today ski resorts can own and operate mortars to use in controlling avalanches. The second amendment is not limited to muskets.

No.3506758

>>3506715

Which was state of the art military grade arms.

No.3506763

>>3506709

I wasn't talking about specifically of genders.
But of the claims demonstrated in the paper about chromosomes.

No.3506764

>>3506715

How long does it takes to reload a cannon from that era? how hard was to obtain said canon shells and the powder to fire?

How easy is to obtain heavy weaponry that can take down even tanks in the USA?

No.3506859

>>3506580 Fucking dying laughing at the shit flinging among them rn. We all know furries & trannies are nutbags but like, holy shit -

No.3506900

>>3506764

Each town had its own share of ammunition located in the middle of town.

A huge reason for the British army marching in Concord was a militia having five cannon on one property of a private citizen.

I mean, "right wing crazy nut" by the hoplophobe vocabulary.

No.3506992

>>3506900

>old towns
>had to defend themselves from natives and the british.
>military too weak
>create militia
>still claim these weapon ownerships back then somehow fits the modern world, in which the USA has the biggest military and militia has zero chance to do anything useful against modern warfare.

Sure sounds like right wing nutters wet dreams.

No.3507021

>>3506712
The entire purpose of the militia from 2nd amendment is ability to perform an armed coup in case the government becomes corrupt beyond repair. That directly implies armament sufficient to effectively take on forces the government employs for own defense.

It seems this purpose has already been compromised - people would need fighter planes, guided missiles and tanks. Semi-automatic rifles are way short of the requirements.

No.3507027

>>3506992

>militia has zero chance to do anything useful against modern warfare.

An effective defense doesn't need material superiority - it only needs to be good enough that the attacking party loses more than they gain by victory. "Good enough" can mean ten million pissed off hillbillies with their shotguns and AR-15s bushing it out - they'll just shoot at everything you send there, tanks, teachers, tax collectors... you're not getting any use of that part of the land after you've tried to take it by force, and the cost to maintain control is greater than just the cost of the military operation.

But if the people didn't have guns, it would be a complete pushover and just a matter of time. Politics is ultimately just another form of capitalism: if I do this, will it be profitable to me? If the answer is yes, then it tends to happen because politicians by and large are self-serving pricks. They serve the system first, their own buddies.

In other countries, at least historically, politicians are kept in check by external threat: if you destabilize your own society by playing petty dictators, you're going to get other countries on your ass who take your weakness as a chance to invade. Russia will march across your borders, China will grab you to the great collective, or the UN and US are going to bomb you, or the international banking system is going to punish you by dropping your credit rating to zero and then you're shit out of luck anyhow - but that's a precarious balance of peace: as soon as the international situation goes wrong, military juntas and oppressive tyrannies start popping up everywhere.

But in the US this is not the case. Who's gonna come over here, Canada? The UN would start another world war? The FED would stop printing money for the government and all the corporate owners of the economy would suddenly grow a conscience? Ultimately the last stop has to come from the people, so there must be an internal threat of trouble if the government gets too much out of line.

No.3507028

>>3507021

>It seems this purpose has already been compromised - people would need fighter planes, guided missiles and tanks. Semi-automatic rifles are way short of the requirements.

A bottle, some gasoline and a rag, goes a long way too - but guns make it easier. More to the point: the knowledge that the people have guns is a deterrent that keeps the government from trying anything funny in the first place.

No.3507095

>>3507027

>Good enough" can mean ten million pissed off hillbillies with their shotguns and AR-15s bushing it out - they'll just shoot at everything you send there, tanks, teachers, tax collectors... you're not getting any use of that part of the land after you've tried to take it by force, and the cost to maintain control is greater than just the cost of the military operation.

A real occupational forced would just bomb the shit out of them with nuclears, conventional, drone strikes, artillery and air strikes. They stand no chance even if you claim about costing a military operation.

No.3507096

>>3507027

>In other countries, at least historically, politicians are kept in check by external threat: if you destabilize your own society by playing petty dictators, you're going to get other countries on your ass who take your weakness as a chance to invade. Russia will march across your borders, China will grab you to the great collective, or the UN and US are going to bomb you, or the international banking system is going to punish you by dropping your credit rating to zero and then you're shit out of luck anyhow - but that's a precarious balance of peace: as soon as the international situation goes wrong, military juntas and oppressive tyrannies start popping up everywhere.

Which is ironic because all these powers you mentioned would just setup another puppet that fits THEIR interests to get the resources or power influence.

The UN and the separation empires of today (USA, England, Germany, China, Russia) Gives zero shit if someone is good or bad.
Their main interest is their position and maintaining their status quo. All the claims to "punish" dictators are pure PR bullshit.

Africa is a fine example of tons of dictators and murderers.. and noone gives a shit nor sends real force of troops. Because there is hardly any interest there and warlords can be bought easily with a few millions, weapons and mercenaries.

Their attack targets are all political and strategic bastions against other empires.

No.3507158

>>3506616
Given this do you still believe there are two genders? Hermaphrodism, genderless, and a whole list of "syndromes" because the DNA is different is scientifically true and you can not scientifically admit there's only two "sexes" This isn'mt the 1800's anymore.

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>>3507158

> because the DNA is different is scientifically true and you can not scientifically admit there's only two "sexes"

That's not how sexes work. There are only two sexes because that's how sexual reproduction works in humans and other mammals - mutants or brain-damaged people don't change the fact or become a "third sex".

They're outside of the question entirely, as they're mostly non-functioning in the reproductive sense unless you force them. You might say they don't have a sex, because theirs doesn't work.

It's like, everyone is trying to play football, split up into two teams, but one guy comes into the field wearing a baseball mitt - they aren't even part of the game.


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